If Angelo Dundee took on Leonard and Davis. How much better do you think Davis' career would have turned out?
It was very tight, Corbett was supposedly the fresher of the two at the time it was called to a halt. Certainly Corbett's people were keener that it should be continued than Jackson's were, although both were done in. Jackson injured his ankle quite badly in the run up to this one and although most say he was alright on the night, his training was supposed to have been badly disrputed.
Stribling had his share of title shots and choked. I think there were better fighters that were never given shots in the first place (ie: Lloyd Marshall, Eddie Booker, Charley Burley).
Definitely, and all those guys are above him on the list aside from Booker. Booker probably was more talented than Stribling, but he doesn't have anything like the resume. He was less active (often because of injuries and difficulties finding matches) and tended to get beaten by the best guys he faced. Booker would still be in my 15, I think though.
In no order Sam Langford MIke Gibbons Charley Burley Jim Driscoll Holman Williams Lloyd Marshall Owen Moran Billy Petrolle Packey Macfarland Joe Jeanette On the bench, Harry Wills,Peter Jackson
i was reading about billy petrolle and he was some fighter, deffinetly worth mention among the all time great uncrowned champions like burley, mcfarland and langford.
His record is padded, he was protected, he had multiple chances to fight for a title from middleweight to heavyweight but his father kept him out of those fights because he KNEW Strib would lose them (and he did anyway when he finally got his shot). His wins over Rosenbloom were good but his fight with Levinsky was TEN YEARS and a couple of retirements past Levinskys prime. Let me say that again TEN YEARS. His first two fights with Loughran were disputed, particularly the one on the undercard of Greb-Moore. That was called a robbery. Loughran avenged the defeat though. Not sure what you think is so special about Jimmy Delaney. He was a decent contender but not a great fighter by any stretch. McTigue was a bum and a cheese champ who shouldnt have gotten a title shot and shouldnt have won the fight that got him the title. He clearly lost to Siki (I have the film, complete), he clearly didnt deserve it, in fact he was panned by the press here in the US when he got it as hed been a joke before hand. If you go through and look at all the newspaper decisions he lost for simply doing nothing but trying to NOT get KOd you realize how **** poor a champ he was. Its notable that after winning the title he lost decisions or ND to every worthy guy he faced: Walker, Loughran twice, Stribling at least once possibly twice depending on who you listen to, Mickey Walker (yes the LHW champ lost to the welterweight champ) and then lost the title outright to Berlenbach. I just cant prescribe to the McTigue argument. The bottom line is, like I said before, he got more than one shot at more than title and couldnt bring it home. He had several more opportunities for title shots (he was immensely popular) but his parents (who managed him) knew his limitations and turned them down. I wouldnt include him anywhere near the top ten greatest fighters to never win a title.