Teofimo Lopez vs Errol Spence @147 in the future

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Dec 1, 2023.


Who wins ?

This poll will close on Aug 27, 2026 at 8:34 PM.
  1. Lopez

    39.3%
  2. Spence

    60.7%
  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Can't believe anyone votes Spence ATM.

    All I seem to read is he's a car crash victim and he's beyond shot.
     
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  2. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Simply this
     
  3. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A battle of the has beens.


    These guys are done. Career's finished. Best days are well and truly behind them.
     
  4. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But I'd buy The PPV:roto2palm:
     
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  5. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only Boxing can do that. Mayweather and Pac are both long gone. Yet these guys fighting an exhibition would sell a ****ing **** load.


    Finished or not. I'd buy that too. That's the beauty of our sport. The good, the bad, and the ugly.
     
  6. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay can we define what that means? So was Spence intact when he beat Danny Garcia or stopped Ugas? Or was he diminished then? Cause pre-crash Spence going life and death w Porter was NOT impressive.

    Just trying to clarify what exactly is meant when I see these comments. When did Spence fall off? And what is that being based on?
     
  7. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Spence that fought Ugas or Danny, beat’s Teofimo. He’s too big, too active, and Lopez’s power is extremely overrated. He’s barely a puncher to me, just very strong, but simply too tight to have the power a legitimate puncher has. So his power wont save him here. He’ll get trounced and likely lose a decision.
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The only thing Spence has over him which could enable him to win is size which to be fair is 80-90 percent of what got Spence to where he got to in the first place against all those career 140s and blown up 135 Mikey and what has also got many others to where they got to. Size matters which is why we have so many weight bullies boiling down to much lower divisions to beat up on leprechauns they hold huge or ridiculous physical advantages over.

    Like Haney for instance who is being lauded as the next SRR despite the fact he's literally never beaten anyone even remotely close to his size and needed a gift from his three home judges and a 36 hour weigh in to get past an old 35 y/o blown up 126 leprechaun Loma who he weighed 20lbs more than and had a near six inch reach advantage over.

    The fact he weighed 165 for his debut at 140 (9lbs more than career 140 Rougarou did who is a big 140) which is just 5lbs less than career 160 GGG's average fight night weight all the way up at 160, just 2-3lbs less than GGG weighed against Rosado and Proksa at 160 and his next opponent Ryan weighed 148 for his debut at 140 makes a complete mockery of weight classes and the intention of trying to ensure that it's a fair fight.

    That's 17 freaking pounds more, over three divisions heavier for goodness sake. How do you think Haney would fair against Bivol because the weight disparity between Bivol and Haney and Haney and Ryan is the same no exaggeration. That's crazy

    So much smoke and mirrors and so many frauds in the sport who are either gigantic weight bullies, deck stacking divas and have gloves won't travel warriors, navigate their careers by avoiding or rarely ever facing punchers, risk averse female dogs who have to hold like an octopus and run like a gazelles, have to resort to all manner of illegal or cowardly tactics to prevent their opponent from hitting them. Rely on having a heavily stacked deck of a home ref and three home judges to rob their opponent. Or are all of these things

    And I'm tired sand sick of it. And unlike all these zero integrity 'fans' who worship at the altar of corruption and hype the hell out of all these frauds whose success hinges on all the aforementioned things and whose only concern is that their boy gets the win via hook or via crook and hate on the real fighters who embody everything right and great about the sport who the complete antithesis of their favs, millions of other fans are tired and sick of it too

    So back to Spence vs Teofimo. Size is the only factor that can swing it in Spence's favour.

    Yes, Teofimo really struggles against certain styles.

    Yes, he should have three legit losses on his ledger.

    Yes, he's a have gloves won't travel female dog.

    Yes, he too was a massive weight bully at 135 and his huge size and power advantages at that weight enabled him to beat far better fighters than he is and who he would stand zero chance against if they were the same size.

    Yes, he's a cretin and a complete weirdo cringelord

    But, unlike Spence, he has elite level skills and we have actually seen him put in dominant displays against world champions his own size or bigger which is something we have never seen Spence do once. When Spence fought someone elite he looked completely clueless and couldn't even make the fight remotely competitive.

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  9. Hi-Tech

    Hi-Tech Active Member Full Member

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    @Serge and I know Josh was like 165 on fight night and Teo still made easy work out of him. Also, Josh is a really tall guy, so it's crazy to think that Haney can weigh as heavy as Josh after an extended 36-hour rehydration :facepalm:
     
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  10. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spence will never fight at 147 again, he had to basically starve himself to death to get down there for the Crawford fight

    He might not even comfortably make 154 tbh
     
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can't measure Spence/Teo by what Crawford did because Crawford was a completely different animal.

    Crawford is a Southpaw with a stronger lead right, a bigger hitter, was physically stronger than Spence, effective from both stances, No issues with zoning in fights, Stalker/ability to cut ring off, and a better counter puncher.

    Teo does not possess any of these attributes in greater abundance than Crawford. His speed would be the only thing he'd have going for him and we've seen him lose to guys that he was faster than because he got bullied. And on top of that Crawford had to beat the hell out of Spence over 9 rounds to get the stoppage (which Spence clearly didn't want but was a good stoppage), even damn near dead Spence kept throwing and pursuing (which kinda made it worse for him). Spence at 70% would beat up a hot/cold guy like Teo.

    If you wanna say that the accident has permanently impaired Spence, so be it. But don't look at the Crawford fight and insinuate it. He simply lost to probably one of the 3 best boxers (currently) on Earth.

    That being said, I don't think Spence can make 147 anymore. Even before the fight he said he only wanted this one fight at 147 and he was moving up.