Teofimo's "shoulder roll" thing

He didn't look like pretty boy after the fight. Kid was sporting some nice shiners both eyes!

 

A good Philly shell utilizes positioning, subtle footwork, the shoulder, head & body movement all to avoid straight punches, the right hand specifically. It's a fully body thing.

The lazy philly shell we see so often ignores all these rules, it's something that it takes years to master, especially when you've got a man in front of you who knows how to position himself. You will be trying to keep up never mind using a defence technique you haven't mastered.

Lopez has really good feet and positioning when he outboxes early doors, He doesn't even need to shell. Problem is when Lopez gets tagged or slows mid fight his feet slow down substantially.

It sort of saved him against Loma late in their fight. Plenty of guys would have been caught square on, trying to hide behind a high guard or run to get away from Loma. Lopez did his shoulder roll thingy which didn't work well but ok enough to not get picked to pieces.

 

Teo still trying too hard to be Mayweather with that shoulder roll. I’m sorry but that style just doesn’t suit him.

 

Broner is actually slippery, though. It's hard to catch him clean and often.

 

Is it time to admit that Teo’s “shoulder roll” just isn’t that good? His defense is average at best.

 

Teo ate a lot of jabs because of his low hands and got himself out of position to counter when he did that flashy shoulder roll thing.

 

The Philly shell is just a garbage stance, simple. Floyd, Toney, and a few others just made it work because of superb talent. I’ve seen so many guys at my gym try it and the same thing always happens; they repetitively get hit with overhand rights.

 

Yeah it only works for defense when on the back foot and usually only against a less experienced opponent. Anyone decent like you said will hit you with an overhand right.

 

If you have a good understanding of the stance´s flaws then you can read your own openings and adjust during the fight.
It´s easy to use if you know how your opponent is going to engage you.

But one has to be elite level talent to get away with it at world level boxing.

 

I've used it in sparring on the backfoot a few times over the years just to **** around but because I only fought amatuer's I would never use it during a 3 round fight where you only have limited time to work.

 

@CooperKupp you will lol when you notice

 

I use it fairly often during sparring. First I use it to just feint a bit and to cage my opponents reactions to it. If I am able to figure out some details then I will use the Philly shell sparingly to set up something or to just mix things up a bit.
Only against guys who are way below me in terms of skill, can I use the shell extensively like Floyd or Toney. And guys who are better than me, well they pretty quickly figure out my patterns and usually are ready for when I use the shell. So they tend to make me pay for it.

Guys who are on my own level, it´s pretty much 50/50 honestly.