Terence Allan Crawford vs. Amir Iqbal Khan & Teófimo Andrés López vs. Edis Tatli RBR

CJ Ross didn't seem to think so lol. But for you to bring up Floyd Canelo in the middle of this topic, I think it's safe to say you got Floyd issues. Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself that Floyd did something to Canelo he didn't.

 

You mean the judge who hasn't judged a fight since? Haha, says the guy who tried to convince himself that a draw wasn't an awful card, and it was remotely competitive.

 

All 3 judges had it competitive. Putting aside CJ Ross, one judge gave Canelo 3 rounds, the other gave him 4 rounds. Vs Floyd that's a lot of rounds.

 

Against Canelo a 8-4, 9-3 card is a 12-0 on any non-paid off judge's card. It was such a complete blow out that not even Oscar could pay the judges off LMAO.

 

Floyd was the A-side, Oscar was in rehab. You're extremely delusional to call that a "complete blow out". If that's what you think it was, then believe what you want, but we both know that's not what happened.

 

Man I desperately wanted Canelo to win that fight at the time.

To this day I feel extreme guilt, like a traitor really, for backing a Mexican over an American legend like Floyd MAGA Money Mayweather.

I convinced some casuals of how important this fight was and how it couldn't disappoint. Walking back from the bar was humiliating.

I don't think I scored a single round for Clenelo. Maybe you could give one. He was absolutely undressed and toyed with in there.

 

First of all, Cotto was "allowed" to weigh 154 lbs when he fought Floyd, Canelo wasn't. Remember Floyd wanted Cotto at his best. So there's that, then there's Floyd's condition, he was in better shape and performed much better vs Canelo. (aside from the excessive flinching) As far as how many clear rounds Cotto won, the judges had Floyd winning 118-110, 117-111 and 117-111. So none of the 3 judges gave Cotto 4 rounds. If Cotto won 4 clear rounds then surely at least one of the judges would have given him 4 rounds. The only rounds that all 3 judges agreed Cotto won were rounds 6 and 8.

Only a single judge had Cotto winning rounds 3 and 5. So if you count those as your 4 clear rounds, then you have to ask why did two judges give rounds 3 and 5 to Floyd. Floyd favoritism ?

The common theme here is that it's hard to win rounds clearly vs Mayweather. I'd argue Canelo won rounds 3, 4 and 10 pretty clearly. Rounds 2 and 6 were extremely close as well. You may disagree with that but I don't think you would deny how close each of those rounds were. And we can't forget about round 12, a round that is hard to give Floyd because he was stalling and Canelo landed the better shots in a low output round. So while Canelo may not have won any rounds clearly vs Floyd, Floyd didn't win more than a round or two clearly vs Canelo. Almost all the rounds were relatively close, and each of the first 6 rounds were extremely close. A lot of posters continue to play this "Floyd dominated Canelo" game, and it's pretty funny to me. If you sit down and watch the first 6 rounds with the volume off there's no way you can watch those rounds and believe that Floyd was having an easy time of it. Those were some of the closest rounds Floyd's ever been in, it was a real chess match.

 

Honestly this fight was mystifying. What on God's green Earth did Virgil think he was doing? Stopping the fight before the five minutes is up??

The five minutes would have allowed Khan not only a chance to recover his balls but it would let him clear his head a bit and gives his ribs a break from those body shots. It could have done a wonder for him.

I've been thinking about it all day and all I can come up with is this: Khan told Virg in the corner that he knew he broke his hand at the end of the 4th. That he couldn't throw it with any power and the pain was searing. Virg saw that nuclear bomb to the balls and thought that with the broken hand, nuts in his guts, and the "basement taking a lot of water" that it was time to end this thing now before a serious beating commenced.

That's all I got.

 

It was very frustrating as a Khan fan. I think your rationale as to what Virgil was thinking is spot on. First there was the hand he was complaining about at the end of the 4th. Then seeing him in pain from the low blow, Virgil didn't like what he was seeing and decided to put a stop to it. But he jumped the gun, the hand seemed to be OK in the 5th and 6th rounds before the stoppage. He was still throwing both hands with conviction and not wincing or anything. The five minutes would have allowed Khan time to recover from the low blow and there was really no reason for Virgil to stop it at that point.

It's frustrating that many have suggested that Khan was getting beat down prior to the low blow, that just wasn't the case. He was starting to get into a rhythm and he was doing some effective work on Bud right before the low blow.

 

You’re still mad clenelo got busted for cow juicing.

 

What makes you think that ? Are you mad that Canelo beat up GGG ?

 

So I guess 99% of boxing fans are delusional and a wackjob like you that thought a draw was plausible is perfectly sane.

 

No I was kidding with you because I know how much you defend Canelo.

 

Don't know why you felt the need to bring up Canelo vs Floyd out of nowhere. That has nothing to do with this topic or what I was discussing. I think you are very insecure about Floyd particularly about the Canelo bout. Calling me a wackjob because I seen it as a close fight, which it was, is pretty desperate and low on your part. This isn't a popularity contest. I could care less if most people thought it was a Floyd shutout or a blowout or whatever you think you saw.

My view of the fight is perfectly in line with the three judges. And I've never come up with a draw scenario that was plausible. I've been steadfast in my view that Canelo didn't do enough to win, that he didn't do enough to get a draw either. But he did win several rounds in my view and fought Floyd tooth and nail despite competing under very unfavorable circumstances. He gave Floyd the best chess match of his entire career and one of his closest fights. If you have a problem with that then that's your problem.