Terence Allan Crawford vs. Ezekiel Brook & Joshua Franco vs. Andrew John Moloney II RBR.

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Something to consider is that Manny is a southpaw himself. That will change things up a bit.
    As and orthodox, I don´t think Bud will have much success at all. Manny will just work to draw out that lead hand in order to counter it. Once he feel comfortable, he will find/create holes and rush in.
    Pacquiao hasn´t fought a southpaw in a long, long time. But how he dealt with Diaz´s jab was similar to how he deals with everyone else's lead hand. I am not saying that David Diaz is on par or even close to Bud, but that right hook from Manny is still there.
     
  2. Slowhand

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    This. I think Brook fought a silly fight, it´s always dangerous going in vs Bud because he´ll just time you. Stay close when you get there or stay on the outside. I know it´s easier said than done, especially Bud´s southpaw right hand is a constant danger, but I guess Brook knows that by now..
     
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  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    brook, or his corner, should have seen what bud was doing. bud had come over the top of his jab repeatedly already, that was the main reason he turned southpaw. to take his jab with his power hand in the lead. they should have noticed his foot positioning to determine what he was trying to do. then they should have warned him about protecting from that right by stepping to his left. make bud have to turn to his weak side. of course, you need a master boxer to understand the instructions and how they relate to what is happening in the ring or have worked on that specifically in the gym. also true, its much easier said from my armchair.
     
  4. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    A few of us on a thread in British called it and said Brook would get wiped out in 4 or 5 rounds. :sisi1
     
  5. KO Artist

    KO Artist Do not attempt to adjust your TV Full Member

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    Brook is a shell of what he was. Prime Brook causes all sorts of trouble, is more aggressive and doesn't get stopped (or even hurt) by a half jab (which is what got him reeling) . It would be a 50/50 fight.

    Shame, but kudos to Brook for taking these big fights and accepting the defeat graciously. Crawford was gracious to Kell afterwards as well so kudos to him too for not gloating.
     
  6. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Man, that Moloney decision baffles me. Maybe you guys have seen something new that I haven’t but to my eyes that’s one of the worst calls I’ve seen in years. Just terrible.

    Good performance from Bud. Brook gave him trouble, he adjusted and won. I don’t put much stock in it though, I wouldn’t consider Brook a top 10 fighter at 147.

    Bud-Pac, I’m not that interested but it’s a very legit fight. I think Bud stops him at this stage of Pac’s career.
     
  7. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    What a disgrace the maloney fight was, how could they possibly still come to that conclusion when it was clearly a thumb in the eye.

    What's the point in having the replay thing?
    What an absolute farce of officiating, even with vid replays they can't be competent.

    Boxing loses yet again, absolute joke.
     
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  8. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No it's not a bad thing but when you're talking about stepping up and challenging Crawford it has to be taken into consideration.
     
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  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pac is still dangerous early and Crawford is a slow starter but put pac in the ring with Crawford and you will see him take a savage beating. Crawford is crazy and would take pleasure in punishing pac and would show no mercy. If I was pac I wouldn't want anything to do with Crawford there's a reason why roach told pac he didn't like this fight for him. As for thurman Crawford would beat the **** outta him. Pac beat thurman but he took alot of punishment in that fight to do so. Crawford is much better than thurman a elite switch hitting psychopath with a license to box and punish people.
     
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  11. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know Crawford has got better and matured, but as time goes on Ricky Burns performance against Crawford looks better than it did at the time.
     
  12. 117-112 Hagler

    117-112 Hagler Member Full Member

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    ...or Gamboa's, for that matter.
     
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  13. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Gamboa was outboxing and schooling Crawford and even badly hurt him. Mean Machine was outboxing and schooling Crawdford and even hurt/dropped him. Brook was outboxing Crawford through 3 rounds. Even at age 42, Pac is 10X better offensively than these three guys combined. The difference is Pac's power, speed, and angles will present Crawford with a challenge that he's never come close to facing. If Pac is close to the form in the Thurman fight, Crawford could lose. Crawford doesn't beat Pac. Age beats Pac.

    And I don't really get this mean thing. Spence, Lomachenko, Mikey, and basically every other boxer goes for the kill if their opponent is hurt. And they're not exactly polite about it. Is it because Crawford looks crazy? Or because he sticks his tongue out and smiles? Inoue is just as a good a finisher and he goes about it in a vicious way, but he's never been described as mean.
     
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  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Stop! He was not badly hurt against gamboa ffs he was buzzed badly hurt means you're out on your feet like bute was against Andrade was in their first fight when that home town ref saved him, that's badly hurt not to mention Crawford is light years better now than he was back then.. Once again another exaggeration he was not dropped or even hurt by EK. Crawford is a slow starter after he warmed up he destroyed EK he even said he fought like that because he felt like it.

    The pac who beat thurman would get ktfo by Crawford when will you realize an inactive and not the same thurman isn't as good as Crawford. Pac has always had problems with technical boxers he never beat jmm clearly in 4 fights ffs. During any point of pacs career Crawford would give him hell. Crawford is complete and he's long has speed has power can box and bang he puts the beats on pac and ends his career.
     
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  15. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    In case you weren't mad enough today:

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