Terence Crawford Had The EASIEST PATH EVER To Becoming Undisputed Champion...

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    His best 3, by a mile are Beltrán, Postol and Indongo. All 3 were the best men he could face when he faced them.

    His next tier of victories Diaz, Molina, Lundy, Gamboa, Burns is a decent list as well.

    The tier after that is probably Dulorme, Prescott, Jean.

    So his resume is very good.

    I didn't compare LWW with MW, I compared the ambitions of the two fighters. Both have stated they want to unify every belt in their division, Crawford has achieved it now, Golovkin needs at least two more victories to reach that goal.
     
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  2. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    It is an example of what Indongo is capable of with his awkwardness. Crawford may have won every round and KO'd Indongo, but Indongo's awkward power punches during the fight received no recognition in the fight by the commentators.
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Beltran - Manny's fomer sparring partner who was relieved of his duties because he no longer provided enough to give Manny a decent workout, yet still gave Crawford work!

    Postol - Decent win

    Indongo - A man who learned how to box in a village. The equivalent of a David Haye fan talking up Mark De Mori

    The rest of the names are C level euro bums, midgets and old men who were shot to pieces.

    That is a very poor resume for someone who is suppose to be p4p.

    As for GGG he at least has elite names on his record and has attempted to fight the top dogs who didn't want to know about stepping in the ring with him
     
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  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    ''Awkward'' as in wild and reckless. That is why they were not given recognition because they were pointless punches that worked against him draining his energy rather than offering any genuine threat to Crawford.

    The man was a bum.
     
  5. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    I agree.. I do think he has a lot of talent and will probably be a great but Ive yet to see him in there with an elite fighter.. Arum needs to put him in with a live body.. Its time no more bs title fights.. Hes unified against b and c level fighters..
     
  6. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Good power punches that land are NOT pointless punches. Draining of energy was not a factor at all in this fight, it is actually puzzling how you are even suggesting this. Crawford was just good enough to be able to quell the dangers of Indongo with the sharper counters.
    If he was a bum, wild and reckless, he wouldn't have had the success he did leading up to this fight. He was the WBA, IBF champ. Just accept a loss and move on.
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    All 3 were the best men in the division when Crawford beat them.

    Which of Golovkins victims do you consider to be elite?

    Crawford hasn't just attempted to face the best in his division, he's beaten the best in his division.
     
  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Jacobs, Lemiuex and now Canelo. Since you don't care much for weight classes we can add Kelly Brook into the mix.

    BTW where we're you when Danny Garvagh cleaned out the entire 140lb division with a far greater resume? We're you on here proclaiming him to be p4p no 1?
     
  9. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    He beat two completelying shot old dogs on their last legs.

    Beating Ricky Burns is hardly a feat if you believe so then you clearly are of limited understanding.

    Indongo is a novice, a old bum who is decent in offence who can throw some wild punches that look cool and help cover up the fact he has no understanding of the fundamental in maintaining balance and distance in the ring.

    You can't blame him as there is only so much you can learn fighting in the midday heat outside huts with no gloves in one of the hottest regions in the world
     
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  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Kind of like Loma's path to his first title. Ands I hold these two in the same regard today.
     
  11. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Ricky went on a pretty good run leading up to the loss, Indongo also looked good beating him and the KO against Troyanovsky was brilliantly set up - so a H2H ability is inferred from these performances. He is at least a 'good' fighter. I'm personally not trying to argue that he is elite, but to say he's as bad as how you've made out is just silly.

    You are certainly of limited understanding to state that David Lemieux is elite - he's a slap bang B grader. Felix Diaz (who was robbed by Lamont Peterson) is better than Lemieux, P4P.
    Also, Golovkin had an ultimately even fight with Jacobs who is elite IMO but not the level we were expecting Golovkin to massively struggle with.
    You seem to like knockout artists and think they're good because they knock people out - this is the sport of boxing, not the sport of knocking people out. Two different things.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Check my posting history to see how I rated Garcia.

    What he did was incredible, especially the way he beat Matthyse.

    I also didn't rate Crawford p4p number 1, I rate Golovkin there.

    Jacobs and Lemieux, what is it that makes those names elite?
     
  13. Paranoid Android

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    Lomachenko isn't blowing up 18 pounds.
     
  14. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Irrelevant to their "path".
     
  15. Paranoid Android

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    Agenda Ninja.