Terence Crawford vs. Prime Antonio Margarito.

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Everything except the BS about Antonio Margarito EVER having loaded gloves is perfectly true. Mosely was juiced to the gills AGAIN!! in that fight
    Like Ive asked before here many times plus asked the two accusers the CSAC & Nazim Richardson where is the proof Margarito EVER tried to load his gloves ????? None was ever produced' What happened to those "PLASTER BLOCKS" Richardson claimed fell from Marg's wraps ?? No reply Asked CSAC to produce those supposedly tainted pads. The rely was. : They have been MISLAID !!! ROFL
    How Convenient
     
  2. C.J.

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    !QUESTIONABLE HAND WRAOS???? Tony NEVER had any illegal wraps. They KNOW he didn't that's why the CSAC NEVER charged him with it All they have is a blatant lie from a worthless POS that they foolishly acted upon
    I wish they had indicted Tony LOL If they had he'd be a very rich man now & probably own the CSAC
     
  3. J Jones

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    That’s why I said my opinion about he psychological benefits of questionable hand wraps ASSUMES that he did in fact use questionable wraps. I tend to believe that he did, but I don’t feel passionately enough about it to argue with someone who disagrees. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t.
     
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  4. C.J.

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    So then Antonio's career & good name get tarnished for ever because a POS LIED!! & a Commission on a par with the Keystone Kops acted upon those lies??????
    Believe me ,whether he's a friend of mine or not, If someone produced one iota of proof that Tony EVER cheated I'd be the first to castigate him & demand he be banned for life. No one EVER had any proof
     
  5. J Jones

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    While I agree that it’s all speculation, both sides do make valid arguments. Unfortunately, fairly or unfairly, Margarito’s fistic achievements will always come with an asterisk.

    Regardless of what happened or did not happen with his hand wraps, I think the Mosley fight ruined him psychologically and the Pacquiao fight ruined him physically.
     
  6. C.J.

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    A prime Margarito circa 2000-2010 would have beaten both De la Hoya & Mayweather They knew it he had to be got rid of. They ruined his career & good name by railroading him Boxing is so damn corrupt
     
  7. bandeedo

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    i love crawford, hes a joy to watch, but im not done evaluating him. i feel he is finally at his best weight and this is the best bud were gonna get in his career, but hes yet to fight a top 3 in his best division. im not rushing him into a spence fight, and i know theres a lot of politics involved, but its spences division till somebody denies him.
    as far as margo is concerned, i havent seen crawford hit anyone near hard enough at welter to disturb margos goatee, i think it would just **** him off. as good as he looks, he may turn out to be #2 at welter, and margo can eat #2s all day long.
     
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  8. J Jones

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    I don’t think they went that far. Oscar had one foot out the door when Margarito became relevant. Plus at that point, Oscar was looking for big names that he felt he could beat or fighters who would allow him to win nearly every facet of the negotiations, with the hope that doing so would significantly increase his chance of victory. Of course, Oscar’s plan backfired badly when the smaller Pacquiao proved to be levels above Stevie Forbes who was also smaller than Oscar.

    Meanwhile, as we all know, Floyd wanted nothing to do with Margarito...too much risk for the reward. Besides, why would he fight Tony when fans were gladly coughing up PPV $$ to see him in against the likes of Gatti and a smaller JMM.

    I agree that the sport is so corrupt, compounded significantly when people discredit their favorite fighters’ rivals on the basis of skin color, nationality, hometown, etc.
     
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  9. C.J.

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    I agree with most of what you say but. When Margarito-Cotto 1 was signed Oscar bragged he wanted the winner to go out in style with a bang. He like most others thought
    Cotto would win easily. In fact I was ridiculed for forecasting a Margarito win. You see I knew the guy they didn't. When Oscar saw how Tony demolished Cotto he hastily backed off SCARED!!! He picked on little Pac Karma reared its head when Pac totally destroyed Oscar humiliating him Oscar blamed Tony for that. If you remember Floyd "retired" around that time things were getting too hot for him
    What happened to Tony Margarito was nothing short of CRIMINAL He was convicted in a kangaroo court
     
  10. LANCE99

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    Oscar really came off like a lil ***** after the fight.

    ODLH - "Maybe I'll fight Paul Williams, since he beat Margarito.."

    PW - " Bring it on!"

    ODLH "Uhm....hey lil manny!"

    LOL
     
  11. Reg

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    Crawford UD 12

    He might take a round or two off where Margarito starts look look effective but When Crawford isn't catching his breath he's shoeshining Margarito all night.
     
  12. DoubleJ

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    As a huge Cotto fan, I was nervous going into that fight. I knew Tony had the 12 round game that could give Cotto problems. Even at welter, Miguel tended to fade down the stretch.

    Knowing the tough road Tony took to get to that fight, I was happy for him even if I was sad for Cotto. I felt at that time Tony had earned it.

    Oscar not honoring his word and fighting the winner made me lose respect for him. Either guy would have made a great fight. Cotto would have been more of a boxing match, Tony a war. Oscar didn't want a war at that stage of his career.

    I'll leave all the Tony was innocent and Shane was juiced stuff alone. Nobody knows for sure, so I'm not going to speculate.
     
  13. DoubleJ

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    The key to beating Margo was to either bang right at him, or circle him. TC doesn't have the pop to simply go to war, but he does have the ability to circle, pot shot, and keep circling. Margo needs his feet set to deliver power.

    Cotto moved backwards. Pac circled. TC needs to fight a near perfect fight to win, but it is possible.

    That said, Margo doesn't need to fight a perfect fight to win and his normal game plan would have him down on the cards in the second half anyway. In my gut, I say he'd score a knock down or a ref stoppage and eke out a win.
     
  14. C.J.

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    Don't blame you if you don't know but I know BOTH for sure[/QUOTE]
     
  15. J Jones

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    I never knew Oscar blamed Margarito for his decision to pick on the smaller Pacquiao. Despite what he said about wanting to fight the winner, I don’t think Oscar ever seriously considered Margarito. It would’ve been a case of too much risk, not enough reward. Especially for that point in Oscar’s career. The only fighters I believe PRIME Oscar shamelessly steered clear of were Winky and Forrest.

    Floyd definitely saw something with Tony that he preferred to stay away from. I also think Floyd used the long overplayed temporary retirement angle as a marketing strategy. I expect Andre Ward to be the next fighter to come out of retirement. Especially when you consider that he might not get into the IBHOF on the first year of eligibility.
     
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