Terence Crawford vs. Sugar Ray Robinson ?

You can't prove fantasy head to head

It's all speculation

I agree Terence Crawfords case requires more speculation

It's like Roy Jones head to head at 168

 

They aren’t.

It’s just an ignorant assumption that modern has to be better.

 

Leonard is being humble

Robinson was not better than him

I think they had similar physical attributes but fight styles were actually different

Yes it's possible that Robinson beats Crawford I would just strongly pick against it

There's not that much footage of Robinson at Welterweight so we're all kind of just assuming at the end of the day

 

Joe Louis had no idea how to cut off the ring

Or was incapable. Whichever one you want to pick

 

I said it wasn't automatic

Generally speaking the modern day athletes are better in just about every sport

 

But RJJ beat the likes of Hopkins, Toney, Hill, very convincingly all 3 are considered great fighters.

I think you're over estimating Crawford's H2H abilities without any real evidence of him against a real top elite fighter.

The only so called elite fighter Crawford has beaten is Spence who was seriously compromised.

Crawford had a close fight vs a semi retired Porter and another very close fight vs Madrimov recently.

Crawford is good H2H but there's nothing to suggest at this moment that he'd be a heavy favourite vs the very best Welterweights of the past.

Crawford needs to prove himself more vs top opposition.

 

They both had incredible speed, power, technique, timing and accuracy.

They both threw blistering combinations.

They had a similar offensive arsenal.

They were of a similar size.


Robinson is regarded as being better by most people.

Respected people.

 

Don’t be ridiculous.

Of course he did.


Conn was just fast that’s all, so he was a tough stylistic match up for him.

He was a fast LHW.


I’m sure you saw the ending.


I’m sure that you’ve heard Joe’s famous quote before:

“He can run, but he can’t hide”

 

Hopkins and Hill weren't at 168

And I have no idea how you call Crawford vs Porter a close fight.

 

Leonard had far better footwork and defense

Much better hand speed and far better on the inside

 

You sarcastically mocked someone for believing that a fighter from the 40’s could be better than a modern fighter.

 

This is absolute nonsense.


He did not have far better footwork at all.

Have you even seen the famous Fullmer knockout?


He didn’t have much better hand speed.

 

But I'm telling you RJJ is rated high for his performances against those great fighters and for also for making other very good fighters look very ordinary.

Crawford certainly has no performance anywhere close to Toney or Hill taking into account the opposition.

Two judges had Porter/Crawford a 1 point fight and most people had it close going into the 10th round and Porter actually landed more power punches overall so I'm not sure what you're on about TBH.

 

He thinks because Leonard had more flashy footwork that he had better footwork he couldn't be more wrong.

 

Ya thats in the heat of the battle once we start chirping back and forth

Obviously Sugar Ray Robinson is better than Joe Spencer