Terence Crawford vs Vergil Ortiz Jr - who wins?

Best fighter my ass. You and everyone else only say because everytime Crawford smashed someone who "has the style to beat Crawford" then the goal post gets moved.

Ortiz has a shot due to his freakish power, but i cant think of any other tools that will work here. I honestly think if Ortiz isn't Crawfords next fight he'll lose to somebody before he gets in position to get that fight

 

You always manage to bring up how little Loma is. Fighting 2 weights higher than he should. Ok then, Loma should just drop down to his correct weight of 126 and call on the Monster. That's his best weight and probably the best and most evenly matched fight he can make. How'd you see that fight going?

 

Disagree. The only fighters I see beating virgil is Tszyu and Ennis. Madrimov is.not.some "elite" fighter. He is rwally.good.but far from elite.

 

Ortiz can't control his emotion especially when caught with big flushes. He immediately seeks retaliation and counters. He will be an easy target for patient and skilled boxer punchers IMO.

 

Tszyu and Ennis beating Virgil? That's Hilarious. Well madrimov is a step ahead of 'em.

 

We know Loma isn't picking on a smaller guy if 126 is Loma's correct weight. And you know worse fights have been and will be made than a Loma/Inoue fight.

 

Madrimov is not on the level of tszyu and Ennis.

 

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Tszyu needs to activate his rematch clause before we continue the discussion. As for Ennis, he overrated imo.

 

Crawford would dog walk Vergil. And he knows it. Thus the reason he was Crawford's mandatory for 19 months and not only never activated it, but also turned down the offer to fight Crawford. That's how the Porter fight was mandated.

Crawford's bout vs Madrimov was not his toughest. Not a single round did Crawford get out boxed nor hurt. Crawford had a tougher fight with Kavaliauskas, Gamboa, & Porter....

 

I like Bud, I think Ortiz is a bit too easy to hit but he will be very dangerous early on with the ferocity of his attacks. I think this will be a great fight

Picking Bud by decision but not with huge confidence

 

People are gonna talk trash regardless. I know that would be a legit fight. I would love to see it.

 

People want to act like crawford beat every single one of his opponents by being a slick high IQ boxer but his physical attributes had just as much to do with it. Truth is he was too physically overwhelming for guys in the lower weight classes. He was oversized for 135 and 140 and fit right in at 147 until he struggled to make weight and had to move up. You have to realize that even for his size, he is freakishly strong. I remember in an interview he said he had to spar bigger guys because he is too strong for guys his size (let alone guys smaller than him like gamboa). Theres also a video of him deadlifting 400 lbs. I'm not surprised guys 147 and below (especially compromised ones) can't handle his power combined with speed. In the spence fight, you could see a huge speed difference while with the porter fight, crawford had more left in the tank than porter who gassed out in the 10th due to not training properly as mentioned by kenny. Porter was up 6-3 in my eyes.

Now that he is at 154, he is slower, older, and his power will not affect his opponents as much so he won't just walk through them. I still got vergil vs crawford as a 50-50 because now crawford won't be able to impose his size and strength on vergil like he would to guys below 154. Meanwhile, I think vergil is capable of hurting him while I don't think crawford can. While crawford still has the higher fight IQ and could win a close decision, vergil now has the physical advantages and could even KO him. Plus I think vergil will learn a lot after having his first taste of adversity against bohachuk (which he still won or drew) who is a really good fighter with a 96% KO ratio.