Terrance Crawford rates Andre Ward pfp #1 himself #2. Diss Golovkin and Lomachenko.

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  1. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    I was just trying to offer an explanation as to why Crawford has fought the competition that he has, which to me is pretty impressive. Arum has an active hand in who Crawford fights and I think that Crawford feels that Arum has done well by him so far and there is no reason to rock the boat. As for Golovkin, I don't know how much control he has over who he fights but I think he has more say so than Crawford. I wasn't trying to criticize you, just offering thoughts about the fighters' resumes.
     
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  2. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    That's about how I see it. P4P is about weight classes successfully climbed. But Ward and Crawford in their second divisions don't qualify in that case. Pacquiao is in his eighth division and while no longer dominant is still top 5 in his division. Donaire is a top fighter in his fifth weight class. Gonzalez is a top fighter in his fourth weight class. Inoue is in his third or fourth depending how you want to measure things. Cotto fights in his third. Mikey Garcia is in his third. Two weight champions are a dime a dozen: Ward, Crawford, Lomachenko, Estrada, Abraham, Santa Cruz, Frampton, Burns, Bradley, Danny Garcia, Narvaez.

    All the best guys go up 4 weight classes. Pac, Floyd, Marquez, Morales, Barrera from the last generation, Whitaker, Toney, Jones Jr, Chavez, De La Hoya in the 90s Leonard, Hearns, and Duran in the 80s Arguello in the 70s, Olivares in the 60s, Robinson and Moore in the 50s, Charles and Conn in the 40s, Armstrong and Canzoneri in the 30s Greb and Walker in the 20s.
     
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  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    140 is one of if not the weakest division in boxing right now - it's pretty much a wasteland and him being massive at the weight he should enter the fray at 147.

    I think Garcia is slightly slept on, in part to his lengthy absence but he rates himself at number 2 and he's not really got wins any better than what Loma has now.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    Nice edit you lying POS with no credibility or no honor who do you think you're fooling? You will say or do anything to further your agenda. You obviously edited the post too bad for you the time stamp doesn't lie dumbass last edited 1 min ago when I called you out on your ****.:risas3::risas3: Way to expose yourself yet once again. You're too easy.:wave:
     
  5. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly!! The guy is TRASH.
     
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  6. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I disagree that Jacobs was Triple G's first legit opponent. I also disagree with people who don't rate Jacobs. He had a stellar amateur career, and he has several good pro wins. I also blame Golden Boy and Canelo for the fight with Triple G not taking place yet. Remember it was De La Hoya who said it needed to "marinate" and it was Canelo who handed over his belt.
    Anyway this was about Crawford and Triple G. Both good fighters in my eyes. I rate Triple G as better but that rating has nothing to do with race. Which unforutanetly for lot of ppl here seems to be the determining factor on BOTH sides.
     
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  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I edited a grammatical error you moron.

    The post was always there, you missed it, that is why it got liked.

    If you don't believe me, brain damage quoted the exact same post on the 3rd page of the thread.
     
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  9. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Didn't even have the courage to go there on his own, as usual he needed his goons behind him to back him up.
     
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  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    Wrong! You lying POS you edited and added the part about Paulie's run with the law to try and save face because I called you out on your hypocrisy and even still you didn't call him a thug a or a POS like you do black fighters. You're not slick and you're not fooling anyone here. No one is gong back to an old thread to correct a grammatical error try telling that **** to someone else. I can find grammatical errors in almost every post you make. Did you go back and correct those to? You agenda having pathetic jackass. No go PM Todd and talk about your next course of action *****.
     
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  11. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed completely. There's no reason to complain about what Crawford is doing.

    IMHO Crawford has somewhat more reason to go up eventually than Golovkin had, because:
    - 147 lb has some very good fighters while 168 lb is a bit of a wasteland;
    - Crawford would not be at a size disadvantage at 147 lb while Golovkin would be at 168 lb.

    I do think Crawford will go up at some point, so this is not criticism of him at all.

    I also don't have an issue with his p4p rating, Ward #1 is reasonable and most top fighters want to put themselves high up too.

    However, I do think he was harsh on Golovkin regarding Froch too, Golovkin clearly did want that money fight at 168 lb and it was Froch who decided against it (which he had the right to do after facing many elite opponents - not criticizing Froch either).
     
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  12. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    How can I edit a quote from brain damage?

    I correct my posts all the time, but I do not change the point I will make.

    Tell me did I edit this thread too where I am calling Tyson fury a drug cheating piece of trash?

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/the-real-truth-behind-tyson-furys-situation.574182/

    You are so determined to paint everyone who does not agree with you as racist, then you will refuse to see what is right in front of your eyes just to hold on to your own sick paranoid beliefs.

    Reminds me of a poster who was adamant that Tony Bellew spat at Haye, and I showed him the video, where no spitting took place, yet he was still firm with his belief that he saw spit and everyone else was wrong.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    Like I said earlier when I made a point of talking about all the threads you created. 85% of them were targeting Black fighters. I said this last week so miss me with that ****. You probably just don't like Fury because he beat Wlad which is the most likely reason. But back to you editing your post after I called you out. That was one of the most cowardly things I think I've seen on this boxing forum in all the years that I've been here. Just take your L like a man and move on.
     
  14. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    crawford resume is good but he has beaten alot of smaller men. Postol his best victory, a good one indeed. He has the frame of 140-147lb fighter but he would look a bit slender for 147lb, hes younger than golovkin who is perfect at his weight. 160lb fighter. As for loma, you cant slag him off at all. Crawford will beat loma if they fought i feel, Hes a bigger man. Number 2 is stupid.
     
  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    How is it edited you if Brain Damage quoted the same message?

    Or do you think I hacked into his account and edited the message on his end too?

    You need to go and enroll in some basic skills level education for adults because you are now becoming completely irrational.

    FTR I do not like Fury, because he made a mockery of boxing through his actions outside of the ring.

    Just like I do not like the boxers who you admire which I have a right to not take to.
     
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