Terry Norris’ wins over Sugar Ray Leonard, Donald Curry, and Meldrick Taylor

Meldrick was two weight classes from his prime .. he was still a good fighter but it's a matter of perspective .. Curry was never the same after Honeygan let alone McCallum and then Nunn .. Ray Leonard is one of the greatest pound for pound fighters that ever lived. Sure it was a good win that Norris beat up a thirty four year old version that was a part time fighter for nine years, was four years past Hagler and inactive coming into the fight for fourteen months or so and dropping down to 154 for the first time in seven years .. Prime Leonard was faster, smarter , better, had a better chin, far better recuperative powers and near equal in power at 154 .. head to head, prime for prime Ray outclasses Terry, no doubt. That being said Ray was arrogant, cocky, manipulative and pushed the envelope and picked the wrong guy .. Ray made the took the fight, Terry rose to the occasion and beat him up.

 

well, my man accomplished a lot, whipped a lot of great fighters and was voted greatest super welter of all time by Editors of KO magazine

what else did you expect me to say, that Norris is a bum? then I'd come off like a bitter, disingenuous, sour grapes boxing fan whose heroes fell like newly mown grass before the fury of Terry's blazing fists

I know the score so let's stop with pretend shall we?

 

it's not a matter of perspective; it's a matter of bias

If Meldrick was champion and 25 years old, how is he not in his prime? He was already champ at 147, having reigned there two years and only two pounds over the weight with Terry coming down from his weight to meet him half way

Why dont you tell the whole story like I do? I'm not afraid to openly say that Terry was just as compromised as Meldrick, nor am I afraid to say that Mel was NOT over the hill

It's a matter of sour grapes

Fans cant accept the fact that it's not only Monzon who can whip great fighters in effortless fashion. Not afraid to say that Terry can take on legends heavily favored over him, who have far the better experience, and whip them with one hand tied behind his back!

The leonard fight was a fair fight with Leonard heavily favored. did you pick Terry to whip him? If not, then you shouldnt be complaining

I just tell it like it is; that Terry did everything he was supposed to to thwart Leonbard, to make him miss. and when he struck leonard, he hit him fast and hard the way fighters are supposed to.

Terry was perfect on both defense and on offense, and thus, a one sided rout.

If Leonard was smarter, he should have shown it in their fight

If leonard had the better chin, then it's Norris who should have been dropped instead of Leonard

If he was better, then Ray would have outscored Terry

but instead, you make excuses for him because he was inferior to Terry in all the categories you just mentioned

I for one, cant understand why anyone in their right mind would pick one fighter with NO defenses over another fighter who set the record for defenses in the same weight class, and spanked him in their only one on one meeting.

just fess up like I did and admit Terry was too fast to touch. As Terry might say "I got so much speed I dont know what to do with it"

 

How long have they let you out for this time Red?

 

I dont want to fight but let me just say this last statement is true.

Prime for prime Norris vs Leonard, I'll say that Ray would have fared better than he did in their actual contest

but would he have won? It's hard to say because of Terry's movement and due to the fact he can beat just about any fighter Ive ever seen, to the punch

There is one football coach known for his expertise who knew about this and built his teams on this principle, that the faster team who beats you to it, will come out on top. and his teams were QUITE successful

not to say Ray isnt fast himself. Ray IS class! and yes, he was brilliant

I just dont think he would have beat Norris. I hope I'm wrong but I dont think so

 

You don't hope you're wrong one bit

Terry would be an awkward opponent for sure, until a peak Ray got to his only weakness - that chin. His speed, power and sharpness guarantee's Leonard would have to fight a respectful fight but Ray's speed and greatness would see him crack that chin at some point.

 

SRL probably could have got a DQ if he wanted to go all Hollywood.

 

Terry Norris was at one staged be mentioned for a superfight with Chavez.
Norris sure was a weight bully !!

 

and Terry would capitalize on Ray's only weakness and employ a strategy based on movement, keeping Ray off balance for the night. Ray would have to settle for a points loss

 

Actually, you are biased, having rose colored glasses which seems to distort your view of Norris. As such, you are rarely supported by more objective posters in
these types of threads. You are what you so fervently accuse others of being. All of your questions about how Leonard could beat Norris prime for prime have been answered multiple times by a myriad of posters in multiple threads.

 

I watched Derrick Kelly beat the hell out of a prime Norris. I watched Simon Brown knockout Norris. I watched Jackson cold clock Norris.
A prime Leonard or Curry walk through Norris.

 

how can i be wearing rose colored glasses if i chose Terry to win before hand?

I took note of Terry's exceptional movement and speed, then I noted Leonard's lone weakness. I then made an analysis thru the ultra sophisticated computer that resides within and deduced that Terry would win in lopsided fashion

while YOU with your bias, believing "this is the way the fight SHOULD go according to my biases" picked leonard by early tko

you made nothing of, and sneezed at Terry's preparation "preparation? What's that!"

Terry's intelligence. Terry's vastly underrated ability to hurt a man, Terry's ability to land his hook in faster than you can blink fashion. Terry's ability to quickly move out of harm's way. Terry's ability to tie his man up when caught in corners. Terry's ability to counter swiftly when caught along the ropes. and Terry's ability to take a shot.

it's not JUST speed but a myriad of other attributes that make Terry THE TOTAL PACKAGE

even still, as Terry might say "I've got so much speed, I dont know what to do with it!"

 

what a punk
excuses and more excuses, all leading to the bottom line; a man traumatized by the actual results that dont fit in with his biases

FACT: Norris UD 12 SRL

 

Who beat Leonard in his prime years? NOBODY.
Who knocked out Leonard in TWO ROUNDS? NOBODY.
Wow. Norris beat up a Leonard who was past his best. Awesome.

Benitez. Hearns. Duran.Hagler.Kaule.
Leonard beat them all - even put the first loss in some of them. Name FIVE Norris opponents that compare to those listed above.

 

who beat Leonard in his prime years?

Duran

was Terry around at the time?

If he had, we'd be adding his name to Duran's

and if Pryor and Hagler were thrown in, their names would be added

Benitez? KALULE??? LOL. was that supposed to impress me?