Terry Norris vs Mike McCallum

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  1. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Norris would jump out to a lead in the first 5 or 6 rounds. McCallum would casually pick up the pace while relying on a body attack. Norris would be hard to hit upstairs while using movement and quick punching. Gradually McCallum would take over as Norris slows. McCallum would start landing headshots more frequently and Norris's lack of ability to absorb shots would factor in to McCallum winning by late rounds stoppage.
     
  2. pablod

    pablod Active Member Full Member

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    Not an astute assessment of Jackson.
     
  3. Waynegrade

    Waynegrade Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually very astute assessment of JJ. Look I`ll give you he could crack and I mean REALLY crack. But Gman owned him and he could be outboxed... I was in Worcester watching him live against Cardamone (spell ? ) and he was getting his butt handed to him at first. Then he landed the equalizer... Funny part was Cardamone`s fans were going wild while he was kicking butt. But,you could have heard a pin drop when JJ starched him ;) You did see JJ against McCallum ?
     
  4. Waynegrade

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    I still get amazed at how many people still don`t give McCallum his just do... He was loaded with ring savvy,great chin, always in shape, solid body attack and was a rock solid champion... Sorry, Norris is NOT in his class. Stoppages over Mugabi Taylor and a decision against a badly faded SRL, doesn`t do it for me...
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Norris is one of those guys who could beat just about anyone at 154 on the right night. I have to favor McCallum given Norris' chin and lapses in defense though. It would only be a minor upset if Norris won though. Curry did take rounds off Mike.
     
  6. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you mean Terry wouldve been difficult for Mike. Did you see the trouble Kalambay gave him? Mike is solid but Terry is just on another level whether we want to believe it or not
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Terry wasnt given a chance against SRL and you're complaining he couldnt stop him?

    he won every round and put him on the floor twice

    tell you what' get me the names of all the sportswriters who picked Terry to win that fight BEFORE it started. If you can find even (half a dozen) out of hundreds, I'll concede the debate

    you may not like him, but you have to give him his due. Terry was a great champion who won his big fights effortlessly. No muss. No fuss
     
  8. Waynegrade

    Waynegrade Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What was Norris biggest win ?
     
  9. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know what I mean, thanks Rooster.
     
  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you didnt answer the question. I asked for the names of all the sports writers and you didnt come up with any

    and since you cant find any, that means none of them chose Terry to win. That means none of them gave Terry a chance of beating Sugar Ray Leonard

    so why then do you complain about Terry outclassing Ray, decking him twice, in a boxing exhibition that would have left Sugar Ray Robinson proud?

    so what if he didnt knock him out? he outboxed him and taught him a lesson, then had Leonard tuck his tail between his legs then quit the sport which is what I've come to expect from him

    Joe Frazier didnt knock out Ali and Ali just came off a 3 year layoff. I dont see you complaining about Joe's win

    you and your "biggest wins" criteria. Terry has several big wins. the only problem is you want to downplay all of them. You downplay the Mugabi fight even as John was the champion.

    I dont understand why Terry going out there and taking his title forcefully when he wasnt supposed to, would be a problem for anyone

    so he starches the champion in one. that's a problem for you as well? the better he looks the more you figure his inferior?

    and if the opponent lasts you complain he didnt knock him out!

    it's as if the better he looks, the more people want to downgrade his opposition just so they can downgrade his achievements

    in both bouts, his opponent was favored to win but guess what" Terry kicked butt

    then ruined in four in a flash of blinding speed what Chavez only pulled off with the help of Ref Steele (who else?)

    what, you dont like speed?

    and easily made hash out of Brown in 12 lopsided rounds. You know people didnt like that! I bet everyone was hoping for a repeat, but as I said, Terry knows how to overcome adversity which he did and had been doing since his loss to Jackson

    greatest comeback in boxing history

    Terry beat them all from novices, to multi divison champions, up and comers, sluggers, bombers, prospects, former champions, boxer punchers, runners - you name it Terry has done it with ***** of brass and ice water in his viens. The man was as cold as ice, and a notable achiever. that's why he's in the hall of fame
     
  11. impacted

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    The rooster summed it up well. If the Keith Mullings loss is going to be held against Norris then so should Holyfield's stoppage loss to James Toney and Nigel Benn's defeats to Steve Collins. A sensible person would write all four defeats off as insignificant to those guys careers because all three guys were physically over the hill at the time.
    McCallum, great that he is, could struggle badly with speed of hand and foot. None came quicker than Terry. If Norris fought cleverly, instead of looking for the KO himself as he did against Jackson, (after hammering Julian in the first) a Norris points win isn't a ludicrous opinion.
     
  12. Waynegrade

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    Jackson and Brown both emphatically stopped Norris. Who had a historically bad chin.In addition to being starched by less than`s,hurt on many occasions as well. His big `victories` beating a welter in Brown in the rematch,a jr. welter in Taylor, a used up Mugabi,and a well past his prime,semi-retired SRL. So you guys really think that out him in line to beat a tough,talented solid jr.middle true champ like McCallum ? Even more humorous, you really think THAT chin holds up against McCallum ? JJ brutalizes Norris in tow. McCallum pummles JJ to a brutal stoppage,while McCallum`s chin holds up rock solid against JJ`s bombs. Now chinny Norris beats McCallum ??? If anyone really think that in a tough,gritty fight that Norris holds up against McCallum,that IS ludicrous... You guys don`t really get or respect McCallum...
     
  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Norris couldn't hurt McCallum but the body snatcher would definitely hurt Norris.
    McCallum by stoppage or ko
     
  14. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We're talking prime 154 lb. Mike here, not 160 lbs. McCallum was better as a Junior Middleweight and peaked there,
     
  15. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You write from the subjective and emotional point of view of a Norris family member:lol:

    McCallum was top notch at Junior Middleweight. He wore down his opponents. His body attack is the key to this match up. Sure, Terry has the speed advantage of hand and foot. But he doesn't have the durability to last the distance against prime junior middleweight McCallum. Mike would bide his time and land to the body in the early rounds. Terry is going to use up a lot of energy boxing. Mike will catch up to him in the late rounds. McCallum will never be hurt in this matchup. His chin is top notch. As Terry tires, McCallum will land the head shots and Terry will fold. This one is not hard to envision.

    Terry did outbox a past his prime, slow Simon Brown and way past his prime Sugar Ray Leonard and Donald Curry. I give him credit for those wins. But I think prime Mike McCallum is just too much for him given his obvious lack of durability.