Th ultimate pac EXPOSED Videos

Ethos · Mar 16, 2010

The *******s got Flintstone84 and all his videos ban'd/pulled cause he was speaking truth. :shock:

Toopretty · Mar 16, 2010

UK_Fight_Fan said: ↑

Morales looked like a skeleton at the science museum in their rematches.
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:rofl Not to mention coming off a loss.... a fresh ass loss to Raheem. Seems like Pac can fight anybody coming off an L and they somehow come back into their prime when they fight him. But Floyd was crucified for taking Judah after an L. Seems Pac takes the names after they get beaten up a bit.

LukeO · Mar 16, 2010

Toopretty said: ↑

:rofl Not to mention coming off a loss.... a fresh ass loss to Raheem. Seems like Pac can fight anybody coming off an L and they somehow come back into their prime when they fight him. But Floyd was crucified for taking Judah after an L. Seems Pac takes the names after they get beaten up a bit.
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Like who else?

Leonard · Mar 16, 2010

Ringnut said: ↑

well I just finished watching the 1st vid (I blame my slow ass net provider) and there's nothing really new in it.

Oscar's condition during his fight with Pac has been dissected over and over here in the forums and the general consensus is that it wasn't a very good win resume wise since that clearly wasn't the oscar of old. but I don't really see what's wrong with that fight, it represented a chance for Pac to become a superstar in the sport. Pac would be an idiot if he didnt take the fight for the amount of money and fame it could get him.

For the Hatton fight, again, is there anyone actually complaining about that fight being made? It was a good match up. Right after the Oscar fight a lot of people wanted Pac to fight Hatton, it was a high profile fight, lots of money to be made fighting against an opponent that many thought would give Pac a hard time. Does anyone actually believe that the Hatton that fought Mayweather or Tszyu would win against Pac?

For the Cotto fight, it's no secret that the big question was how much Margarito took away from him. A lot of people thought Cotto still had what it in him other thought he didn't. Does Pacquiao's dominant win over Cotto conclusively answer the question of how much Margo took away from Cotto? Hardly. The fact is, Cotto looked really sharp at the start of the fight and was very competitive against Pac all up till he got seriously hurt in the 4th round. After that, he wasn't the same fighter. Is this because of Margo or because Pac caught Cotto with a short, hard left uppercut that Cotto didn't see coming? Sure it's debatable how much Cotto had left in him coming into the fight but it it doesn't change the fact that it was a good fight and that a lot of people wanted it to get made.

As for Pac "ducking" Mosley. Well, before the Cotto fight, none of us knew how well Pac would perform against a tough Welter. Team Pacquiao probably didn't know as well. I don't really consider it as Pac ducking Mosley since Pac's still more of a natural junior welterweight. Back then, most people thought Mosley at 147 would be too much for Pac because no one knew if Pac could take a punch from a top Welterweight. And since Mosley's pretty big for a welter (bigger than Cotto I think), a catchweight would have really hurt Mosley. And I didn't want to see another OLDH-like fight. Cotto at 145 was the smarter choice definitely, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a good exciting fight.

Now for the video's whole tirade about Pac fighting bigger guys and then showing his fight night weight against Marquez, Barrera, Morales. That's really reaching. Pac fighting bigger guys is a remark made in reference to him fighting Diaz, OLDH, Hatton and Cotto. Now granted, Pac was heavier than Oscar, but that wasn't really Pac's fault now was it? That's more on Oscar's camp. All those rehydration clause theories sound like bull**** to me anyway.

In the end, I don't really see why people would criticize Pac's resume. Almost all his fights were good fights, almost all his fights were fights that people wanted to see. Granted, he often chose the high reward fights, but you have to admit, all those fights were high risk.

Look, Roach thought Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore and the fight showed Roach was right. But what if Roach was wrong? Roach thought that Mayweather took away something from Hatton. What if Roach was wrong? Roach thought that Margo took away something from Cotto. What if Roach was wrong? Just because Roach thought it doesn't mean it's true. The fact that other top trainers didn't agree with roach when making their predictions shows that all of Roach's statements are just his opinions. It doesn't mean that Roach is privy to some super secret information regarding Pac's opponents that no other person in boxing knows. There's nothing to expose. Roach had his opinions about fighters, opinions that could have been wrong as easily as they could have been right given how unpredictable boxing is.
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:good

Breakdown · Mar 17, 2010

can;t see any of em :/

Jaguar · Mar 17, 2010

LukeO said: ↑

Like who else?
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DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey...

All coming off losses. However in their defense DLH, Hatton, and Cotto had tune up fights in between. But DLH, Hatton, and Cotto all had recent (and in some cases devastating) losses..

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