I dont agree. Who other than Clottey in the welterweight division would you have had him fight without labeling him a cherry picker? The Floyd deal had fallen through and Mosley was due to fight Berto. No matter who Pac fought after the Floyd deal fell through he would have been labeled a cherry picker from the haters, as would Floyd have been called the same thing from his haters.
Is this the same one? http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=189310 Someone had to spend a time to make hatred threads, but it is so long that I simply can't be bothered going through it. But click on the one above and it would show you how the floydettes were in frenzied orgy for probably 8 or 9 pages until........ Then everybody scamper or disappear. You will find the most "knowledgeable" persons there. And the usual practice of the floydettes as surely and utterly disgustingly demonstrated in this thread of patting each other back is not new.
Not likely. Manny still doesn't get it, and his people don't either or they're misleading him. Miguel Cotto has learned the price of sleeping in bed with the devil. This is only the beginning for Pacquiao. By the time all this is done every bit of luster and shine that was on Pacquiao at the end of last year may be gone. For good.
Excellent videos, excellent link. I've never said anything on this matter before, but this makes me smile. And to all those 'respected' posters in the classic forum who have Pac in your top 20/30 all time, have a word with yourself. You are meant to be able to see past the **** the general public are fed but Manny gets a free pass, as always. Mayweather doesn't, but Manny does. Bull****. Anyway, I've bitten my tongue for nearly three months, and will never mention the issue again as I can't be bothered with the floyd haters and pac baguettes. And for that matter the Floyd baguettes and manny haters. But what is in front of you is fact, yes clever editing and music, but fact none the less. All has been said, and twisted by team Roach over the years, and this videos have doen a great job of uncovering the bull****. Thanks for the link OP, this will be getting passed on to my friends outside esb.
Hey, is true that pac "cherry pick" oponents but don't get over your head in this it doesn't mean PBF is not doing the same, he is like pac he decides to fight only when he is sure that he can beat an opponent, remember how he ducked margo? big mistake it was an easy fight for him. And there are many other cases, so please stop the non sense that PBF is different than pac.
Well put together but I dont agree with this video, if you really know the story, both sides didnt agree to the terms for example Mayweather can say, I never saw anyone not taking a 25 million dollar test but you can also put it this way, if mayweather is the greatest and the best defensive fighter then he can beat Pac and take the 40 million, also you can say I dont mind losing and take 40 million etc etc.. It depends on how you want to look at things. you can have a glass half full or half empty
:yep **** Pacq-iao...... **** Pacq-iao :spy (I) **** with your soul like ether (Will) Teach you the king you know you (Not) "Money" across the belly (Lose) I prove you lost already Brace yourself for the main event Y'all impatiently waiting It's like a PEDs test, what's the results? Not positive, who's the best? Paq, Sugar, or Floyd Floyd's the best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy I embrace y'all with napalm Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone How could Floyd be garbage? Semi-autos at your cartilage Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne I got this, locked since '9-6 I am the truest, name a boxer that I ain't influenced Gave y'all rounds but now I keep my eyes on the Judas With fake Philippian fame, keep my name in his talk Check it (I) **** with your soul like ether (Will) Teach you the king you know you (Not) "Money" across the belly (Lose) I prove you lost already Y'all *****s deal with emotions like bitches :ko :hammertime
D E A D LMAO...That was great In their own words too...!! Freddie is a smart joke!!! AND I never thought to look at the weights of PBF and PAC on fight night...Thats crazy!! Floyd has fought larger healthier fighters
Where do you disagree? There were one or two points that weren't quite accurate (for example, the Reyes gloves did make a difference in Morales 2 and DLH did get busted up against Quartey and a little bit against Floyd - not only with Forbes and then Pac), but for the most part this montage was accurate (Pacman did fight fighters who they thought were on a downward spiral and he did outweigh them on fight night - one thing that wasn't brought up was the fact that after Morales 2, Pac didn't say one thing about getting blood drawn, but once this whole Floyd issue started then they say the blood was the reason he lost to Morales 2 although it obviously didn't affect him against Hatton).
I don't even agree with this excuse. There was a Pac/Clottey countdown show on last night. Roach remarked how that fight changed him as a trainer. He said Pac simply wasn't well rounded enough and that he had to make him a complete fighter. There's a whole article today on Yahoo were Roach further explores the subject and says that he trained his guys to fight like him before that fight. He didn't try to refine their skills and he was too complacent. Not once did he mention anything about gloves. Despite the stupid **** he says sometimes, Roach is no fool. He knows damn well his guy wasn't prepared, and lost because of that. Not because of the gloves.
Yo...Here is what's really Pissin' me off!!! Roach sees an aging Oscar who is not the fighter he used to be...Then a beaten and exposed hatton, then a DAMAGED Cotto. Mosley comes to his Gym and practically BEGS for a fight with Manny. And Roach's response: "Only if your willing to drop to 142 or 143?" And this is the MUTHA' FUKA' PEOPLE THINKS IS THE BEST TRAINER IN THE WORLD???:-(
This video reminds me of the Oliver Stone's JFK...even if you think whats being said is some convoluted nonsense, you can't deny how well it was put together and executed! Bravo to whomever made this video! Unnecessarily high production value, but impressive nevertheless. But it's still some biased bull****.