Thank god it's OVER!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Tuffnutz, May 10, 2008.


  1. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    I know all about the Hatton - Witter war of words,both fighters and fans.I ve followed boxing for over 25 years.
    I Just noticed the clever terminology you employed;The Ricky side were 'Hatton nuthuggers',whereas you and Smazz had been "championing" Witter.
    Now which sounds better? which fan comes out in a better light using terms like that?Its not Hattons is it?
    Why not 'good judges' rather than Hatton nutthuggers?Which is a pejorative term.
    Subtle,but i spotted it,trivial as it is.
     
  2. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is correct, any pro-Hatton post gets jumped on with 'not a real boxing fan' and 'fanboy/nuthugger' and all that crap. It's a schoolyard debating style.

    Pretty pathetic all in all.
     
  3. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    The fact that Lynes and Kotelnik went onto achieve good things after the losses show how good they are and how they are a good name for Witter's record.

    Hatton hasn't fought anyone In the rings top 10 or any top Light Welterweights since Tszyu. He hasn't cleaned out the division even.

    Judah was a two time Light Welter titlist and an undisputed Welter champ and Witter had a closhish fight with him on 9 days notice.
     
  4. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Castillo was ranked number 2 in The Rings rankings at LWW.

    I'm sure I heard something about Hatton beating him.
     
  5. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Ajose Is nothing like Zab Judah and Witter had a closhish fight with him on 9 days notice.

    Ajose can't even stop domestic class fighters like Wright or journeymen like Reid, he won't stop a world class Witter. He only stopped Ali because he was weight drained.

    Pressure using the jab Is the way to beat Ajose.

    8 years and nothing to say he's above commonwealth level yet.
     
  6. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Castillo Isn't proven at LWW and was very weight drained and shot. He should never of been top 2. NGoujo should of got the win, but they didn't want the Hatton fight to not happen with Castillo.
     
  7. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    You said Hatton hadn't beaten anyone in the rings top 10 rankings since Tszyu, I proved he had, that is all.

    Anyway, Hatton's fighting the number 7 and number 2 in his next couple of fights.
     
  8. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Lazcano hasn't fought for 14 months, Urango wasn't In the top 10 when Hatton won as well. Golden boy owning the ring has currupted their rankings so for the benifit of their own fighters. He wasn't there until Hatton chose him as a comeback fight.

    He should of fought the no 1 though but Is lucky he lost.
     
  9. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    You ask Ricky to fight some top 10 fighters.....he beats Castillo, then sets up fights with Lazcano and Malignaggi and you still complain.

    Malignaggi is the number 1, so you get your wish yet again.
     
  10. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    Kotelnik yes, he's a decent fighter.

    But what the hell has Lynes achieved? Being a European champ isn't what it used to be, y'know?
     
  11. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Mate, i never made out that Witter would definetly beat Hatton. I believed that he could beat Hatton and i would have made him the favourite because i thought he had the right style, but also said that i would'nt be suprised one bit if Hatton won.

    I've never been a rabid Witter fan but a hell of a lot of Hatton fans are rabid nuthuggers who would never admit that Hatton avoided Witter or give Witter any credit. They made excuse after excuse. So now it's just that they had "good judgement" and they "knew" Witter was "****" all along is it? :lol:

    I've praised Hatton for taking fights with Tszyu, Floyd and Castillo.
    I believd all three would beat him, even Castillo so i had respect for Hatton for talking what i considered to be very risky fight's.

    He still continued to avoid Witter though and ended up digging a deeper hole for himself.

    Now Hatton will never have to fight Witter but it should have been him beating Witter last night and not Bradley.

    Witter was too risky and a potential bannana skin and it got to the point where a loss to Witter wouldhave compelety messed up all that Hatton had done.

    You dont seem to understand that i am just a boxing fan who wnat's to see the best fights. Nothign more, nothing less.

    I praise all fighters who do the business and take risks, and make it known that i'm nto happy when a fighter ducks anyone or puts on a **** show.

    Hence why i'm pissed off with Witters **** display last night amd have no probolem what so ever admiting that he was ****.

    Just like i had no problem at all admiting that on other occasions Witter has fought below par, or that that the Kotelnik fight could have gone either way.

    Im one of htem ost unbiased boxing fans around.

    I've never come close to hugging Witters nuts but the kid earnt his shot at Hatton along time ago and only a Hatton nuthugger woudl make excuse for Hatton never taking the fight.
     
  12. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Tuffnutz,

    Thats a pretty fair post. My opinion is that Witter-Hatton should have happened when Hatton was WBU champion and fighting Smith, Vilches etc. Given that it didn't happen then I'm not at all gutted that it didn't come off post Zoo, Hattons level of competition has been consistantly high since then. I found it strange that people seemed to jump on the fact that Hatton was fighting Lascano after Maywether and not Witter....:huh
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Lazcano has been at No.7 in the Ring rankings for some time - he hasn't just been there since January.
     
  14. Bomber_uk

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    Complete and utter bullshine mate, I have never once seen you give Witter credit for taking on Zab with very slim notice. Surely if you ' just like guys who go for the biggest fights they can get ' then Witter would have leapt up in your estimations when he did that ?

    As has been said though Witter has well and truly fcked it all up now and he is really gonna struggle to get back in amongst them now with age and awkward style against him. I never want any British fighters to lose and I shall be hoping Ricky gives Lazcano a good hiding when they meet, but as has also been said Ricky will have spat his curry out with laughter on sat night watching that. He now doesn't need give any other excuse apart from the fact Witter brings nothing to the table anymore and to be fair to him he is right. Witter has fcked this right up for himself, if you fail to prepare then you should be prepared to fail and that ( I think ) is what has cost Junior :thumbsup
     
  15. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    It's hardly comparitive,
    Tszyu undisputed champion and p4p #3, Mayweather p4p #1.

    Judah IBF champion in his first defence against Witter. And Junior couldn't even try to win the fight.