Thank god Wilder is being bypassed

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  1. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Agreed but i guess thats why they are trying to take a less risky fight in order to get there

    Could go very wrong however
     
  2. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    He is refusing to look past the trilogy fight

    Fury has options

    Wilder not so much
     
  3. Dubblechin

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    We'll see. Joshua isn't a draw in the U.S., and took a dump the only time he fought here, so the UK PPV price for Fury-Joshua will have to be jacked up to U.S. PPV levels to compensate ... and we'll see how many £65 PPVs they sell in the UK with people complaining about that. And then it might take place in the Middle East, because it will need a large site fee, so that will raise some complaints in the UK. And Fury won't take the same purse Ruiz settled for, so everything involved in the fight will cost a lot more than any Joshua fight previously.

    When all is said and done, it may not even make more than than Wilder-Fury II globally.
     
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  4. McGrain

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    This is nonsense. Pure fantasy. The very idea that there will be a £65 pound ppv in the UK is utterly ridiculous. Joshua makes purses in excess of 50 million dollars, and his highest purse was his most recent against Ruiz. In the rematch. After being beaten in the first fight.

    Wilder earned a fraction of this for the first Fury fight.

    The very notion that British PPV has to be "jacked up" to "compensate" is total fantasy, like so much else you post anywhere surrounding Wilder's division. The paydays for Fury-Joshua will be collosal. The PPV here will cost maybe half of what you suggest - maybe.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's a normal PPV price in the US. Why is "the very idea" ridiculous? They didn't start that high here, either. The first PPVs were $20.

    You think for the biggest UK heavyweight fight Bob Arum won't charge what he "normally" charges in the U.S.?

    LOL. Wake the hell up.

    And do you think Fury or Joshua will want to take the same purse they make for fighting lesser opponents? It's easy to make tens of millions when your opponents aren't. When you have to split the purse 50-50, and your opponent isn't a typical challenger, they'll want a bump in guaranteed money, too. Joshua won't want to earn the same as he'd make against Pulev. He'll want more for Fury. Fury will want the same as Joshua, at minimum. So the costs more than double.

    All that adds up.

    Hell, Bob charged £77 in the U.S. for Mayweather-Pac.

    You guys have gotten off easy so far. Welcome to Bob Arum's PPV. (LOL)

    Fury-Kabayel might be your last cheap night.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    Yes, and i'm sure they're going to triple for this fight :lol: I can't believe you're actually trying to pretend this is anything other than the worst kind of fantasy.

    :lol: wake the hell up from what? I don't "think" anything about what Bob Arum would do in America, and haven't said a word about it. You literally just make up opposition where none exists so you can complain, it's genuinely unbelievable.

    Look, the money paid to Joshua-Ruiz absolutely dwarfed the money paid to Fury-Wilder two. Joshua-Fury, i don't know what will happen with purses and money because 80,000 at Wembly is a big hit to lose. It may very well go to the middle-east situation dependent. I don't know.

    I do know you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

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    Anyone who thinks Bob Arum wouldn't charge $85 for a PPV isn't living in this century.

    That's what they cost here. How is it fantasy? It's been the price for years.

    Have you noticed PPV prices in the UK going up over the years? Same thing happened here.

    Arum can't wait to charge you what they charge us. And this is the opportunity to do that. It's not fantasy. That's how it works. And when the price goes up, that's where it stays, until it goes up again.

    You guys aren't special. You're going to get charged just like we do. Especially when you'll be the primary audience for that fight.
     
  8. McGrain

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    I have no idea nor interest what Bob Arum would charge for a PPV in the US. I haven't mentioned it, commented upon it and I do no have any interest in it. If you are arguing, it is with nobody except your strawman.

    No. They are going down. I got this weekend's Lomachenko fight for under ten dollars - or maybe ten pounds i forget :lol:

    Again, the fantasy you are pedalling, a £65 pay per view next year :lol: is nonsensical and the fact that you're still trying to pedal it is embarrassing.

    What Sky Sports charges UK customers for pay-per-view has absolutely nothing to do with Bob Arum. You seem deeply confused about the whole thing.
     
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  9. Dubblechin

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    It's free on ESPN here. LOL Thanks for ponying up.
     
  10. catchwtboxing

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    Chisora is a ranked fighter and it got him a ranking. So yeah, he is a legit voluntary.
     
  11. McGrain

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    But what you pay for boxing in the States is vastly in excess of what we pay here.

    And our pay-per-views are going down or holding.

    The most i've ever paid for a pay per view here is about 30 dollars. The least is ten. The average is twenty.

    The idea that there will be a $70 PPV in this country next year is total fantasy.
     
  12. Dubblechin

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    I look forward to all the outraged "I can't believe how much they are charging" threads.
     
  13. Dance84

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    Beating a gate keeper in chisora makes you legit. Got it
     
  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You just don't read. I didn't try.

    I didn't try.

    I didn't try.

    I am a REAL boxing fan. I appreciate skills, not necessarily "excitement." That is for casuals.

    It is a false metric. I didn't try.

    I didn't try.
     
  15. McGrain

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    Yeah, your future sense is not up to much where this stuff is concerned tbh.

    You predicted Wilder would beat Fury and you've predicted a £65 PPV next year and you've predicted Fury-Wilder II will prove to have been a richer fight than Wilder-Joshua.

    In short, you don't know much about anything.
     
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