Thanks to Cain , the absolutely insane Lesnar hype is finally over..

yea they seem to forget those fights.

To me, brock just doesnt look as big since the layoff and getting sick. Just looks a little smaller. More human.

 

I'm gonna give you that Brock has 1 legit win, against Mir, other then that he suck ****. Almost lost against Carwin , thank to his gaz tank, won against old Couture with a suspect chin, L'n'P Hearring for ****in 15 min and lost the first time against Mir...cmon, this guy isn't a legit fighter

The difference between me and other ESB'ers is that I never bought into Brock hype machine, I always thought he suck and now it's proven HE ****IN SUCK !!!!

Truth hurt dude, I hope you like it !

 

Lesna is definitely still top 10, where you place him is personal choice

He's no bum, no joke, he's a legit top 10 heavyweight, pushing top 5

People always cream their pants when someone big loses

 

WOW....now it's my turn, just wow, how much of a ignorant ******** can you be ?atschatschatschatsch

When was Fedor in trouble against Hunt and Randleman ? Please just educate everyone here and tell us when was he in trouble ? Yes he was rocked by Fujita....and manage to finish the fight 1 minute later. I dare you put Brock in the same post as Fedor, shame on ****in you man.

Brock won against Hearring with L'n'P = FACT

Couture had the upper hand in that fight until he got knocked out

Man common, Carwin is FAR from being a legitimate fighter too. He ****in gassed in 1 ****in round, the only time he went in the second he got chocked out by Lesnar. The guy has hard hand yes, but he is not properly tested yet.

Like I said, the only legit win is Mir.... !

Typical zuffa zombie man...typical !

ADDED THIS : I bet you are one of those ****** that think Roger dominated Fedor in the first round of there fight....for hitting Fedor with 1 jab and being on top for ****in 25 second....zuffa ****in zombie man !

 

yes it was, thanks to dana. whos fighting cain now? JDS?

 

i saw the hype he was talking about. Brock is still a top HW imo but some his fans act like he was god of the HWs. Mostly former WWE fans

 

atsch Think whater you want mister ****er but Lesnar isn't a legit top 5, only in your little fantasy world.

HAHAHAHA, Hunt dominant for 8 minute in a 8:16 fight... Do I need to explain how ****in stupid you are ? 2 Kimura you call that trouble ? Are you that stupid ? You didn't realise the second Kimura Hunt just let it go because he coudn't finish it...Fedor was never in trouble in that fight...he was on his back, but not in trouble...go check the fight again numbuts !

Yes Rendleman executed a nice supplex against Fedor...so ****in what ? Fedor was rocked ? Stunned ? Stoped moving ? **** NO. I don't even understand why you bring Fedor into this debate...you are a ****in moron trying to make a point about a ****in n00b with the G.O.A.T.

And you are the prime exemple of why MMA fan usually have a bad image, because you don't know **** about the sport and you buy into Dana White hype machine....go **** yourself ******* !

 

Someone explain to me how a UFC heavyweight champion who defended his belt is not a top 5 heavy?

If your answer includes discounting wins, by employing words such as "suspect chin," "old," or "shot," please spare me.

 

No, GSP and AS are legit...I just wish GSP would go up in weight to prove he is better then AS.


I'm gonna be honest with you at least. I don't have top 10 because I am well aware there is alot of fighter I havn't seen fight yet. Fighter in Bellator, Dream, Sengoku, SF, M-1 and UFC and I don't claim to be a know it all ****ers like many people some time...

But for a simple answer, I'll try to do my best

Top 10 HW

Fedor
Alistair Overeem/Werdum/Cain
JDS
Mir
Lesnar(hype job)
Carwin(rarelly seen wrestling skills)
Barnett(maybe to much PED dependant)
Jeff Monson/Serger Kharitonov

Hard to do a top 10... AO,Werdum and Cain are pretty much on the same place but if I had to put them in order, I think it would be Werdum(2), Cain(3) and AO(4)(AO hasn't been tested properly at HW yet soo...)

For # 10 I really don't know tough....it's a splitt between Jeff Monson and Sergei Kharitonov

What's yours....with Lesnar within the top 5...lol
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...the title doesn't mean **** and the UFC is the perfect exemple for it.

Lesnar won UFC title after 4 ****in MMA fight
Jake Shield get a title shot against the Koshek VS GSP winner( we all know it's going to be GSP) after a really ****in awful/robbery performance while Jon Fitch has only 1 defeat in the UFC(against GSP) but he still need to prove himself to get a title shot ? Cmon that ****in BS.

Why should we give a damn about the ****in belt ??

My top10 maybe isn't perfect, but it's not base on trinket(AKA Belt) I've tryied to give a top10 that made some kind of sense. Mir beat Lesnar once and Lesnar beat Mir once, so you can put them on the same spot if you want. I honestly think that JDS would just **** both Mir and Lesnar.

BTW you asked for a top10, not a top 5

But you have Werdum behind Ubereem, when Werdum subbed Ubereem ?
Don't get me wrong, I think AO would KTFO Werdum, but this isn't what happend some years ago !

 

That is completely absurd as Lesnar categorically dominated Frank Mir during their last meeting.

 

You are entitled to your opinion, now you can roll it and shove it up your ass !

 

Lesnar top 5 seriously? Somebody mentioned he was the HW champion, and defended it...And? How many HW champs has there been in UFC? For gods sake Tim Sylvia was UFC CHAMP!, and still continues to fight! He also got demolished by Fedor, and KOed in one punch against Mercer...Don't mean ****.
I do think Brock is a powerhouse, a freaky amazing athlete, and has great talent. The way he fights though is not amazing to me. He loses to Mir in his first fight (that's ok), he beats an old herrig by smothering him and doing NOTTA, he pulled out the victory against old ass Couture (good win even with the guy being an old man), demolished Mir (good win), and got his ass beat by Carwin (but he did show a lot of heart, and came back after Carwin was gassed to steal the victory). Then of course gets demolished by Cain.
This is top 5 worthy? Seriously? Up there with guys who have been fighting for years, and years like Fedor, overeem, etc? The guy has only had 7 fights, and lost 2 of them. One he pulled out from the jaws of defeat, another one he layed on his opponent for 20 minutes, etc. To say he's top 5 is a disgrace to MMA. I'd rate old, hasbeens above Lesnar on record, and competition alone.
Honestly though if the dude could take a punch he would be in my top 5, but then again...he probably wouldn't have lost anyways.

 

Vitali Klitschko
Wladimir Klitschko
Sam Peter
Fedor Emildenko
Cain Velasquez
Mike Tyson
Shannon Briggs
Overeem
Mir
Jason Gavern


All of them beat Brock Lesnar handily!

 

OK, Im trolling, but boxers who aint washed up cheeseburger swallowing fatasses kick mmaers asses all day long.

Either Klitschko KOs Lesnar EARLY!