Whoever started this thread is wrong about joe having just dawson left. after that he'll have to fight kessler 2, then hopkins 2, then glen johnson, then pavlik, then froch, then andre ward, then gold medalist james degale, then the gold medalist of the 2012 london games. If he does all that and is still undefeated then maybe, just MAYBE can we say he was at least a decent fighter?