That´s why I think Sonny Liston is overrated

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Luigi1985, Sep 26, 2007.


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  1. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    I think he needs a left hook from me right on his chin...
     
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  2. mr. magoo

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    Can you say Troll?
     
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  3. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    I don´t know why such "objects of dispute" like this "Dave Krieg" just don´t get banned immediately...
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    The problem Luigi is that we give these people the exact kind of attention that they crave. If we all agreed to just ignore these types of posters they'd go away.

    Think about this for a moment. What is the number one thing that keeps you or any poster coming back here? I think I know the answer. Its responses from other people. Imagine if you posted for three weeks straight and never got one reply from anyone else. Would you still continue to come to this site?

    Therefore I suggest we don't respond anymore to Dave Kreig, Thad Spencer or some of the otehr trolls.
     
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  5. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    That´s right, I always said that in the past, but the problem is, that most posters here answers. Do you remember this "Homicidal Hank"- guy? I extra created a thread that everyone shouldn´t respond to him, than this idiot wouldn´t write here anymore. But most people answered and that´s just what he was waiting for...
     
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  6. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    Let Dave Krieg stay. He can provide entertainment for when the forum get boring sometimes. He's always good for a laugh.:yep
     
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  7. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    He would be better as a punchingbag for my training IMO...
     
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  8. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Here, for SuzieQ49 for example, ridiculous to rank Sonny that high... (2nd best HW ever or 3rd best)
     
    Luigi1985, Nov 28, 2007
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  9. McGrain

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    I have him at three, too :D
     
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  10. Luigi1985

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    :D

    But just answer me one question: Let´s take Lennox Lewis as an example, how can Liston be placed over him? I mean, Lewis resume is far better, and also head-to-head he would be more dangerous...
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I have Lewis at #4. I agree that Liston has the better resume, but I disagree with you that Lewis is more dangerous h2h. I would say that your man, Marciano, has a better chance against Lewis than Liston (who I think is the wrong man for Rocky) because of Lewis' slight chin problem (exaggerated but for real).

    Do you see what I mean? ATG power punchers have a chance v Lewis because of punch resistance, Liston's chin seems solid.
     
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  12. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Liston´s chin was solid, agreed. But also far away from great IMO. The C. Williams-fights don´t count for me, because Liston destroyed him quick both times and Williams didn´t land something heavy, and Williams KO-record is misleading, he KO´d only 2 good opponents. Liston was also sometimes hurt by mediocre hitting fighters, Lewis head-to-head would be more dangerous IMO, because he had a good combination of skills, size, power, etc....
     
    Luigi1985, Nov 28, 2007
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  13. Quick Cash

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    Concentrating on head-to-head ability (which is the proper way to rank fighters, in my opinion):

    1.) Ali
    2.) Louis
    3.) Holmes
    4.) Lewis
    5.) Liston

    Sonny is my gatekeeper, and is actually considered by me as a big favorite against my fourth all-time pick Lennox Lewis. By my estimation, no other boxer in the latter portion of the top ten can best Liston in a heavyweight contest.
     
    Quick Cash, Nov 28, 2007
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