THAT same Jesus Soto Karass was OUT BOXED BY MIKE JONES(2x) AND GABE ROSO

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  1. at1

    at1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lets not get outta hand it was more Berto being shot to **** and shoulder being ****ed than Jesus Soto Karass, I wouldn't waste a date on him with anyone even sort of established Thurman vs soto then let the winner face broner ....
     
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  2. Bobo

    Bobo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he moved up in weight for Rosado. Rosado is much bigger.
     
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  3. WhamBam

    WhamBam Keeping Cool Full Member

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    he would have lost anyway with an undamaged shoulder. he was never able to deal with the workrate and height of karass
     
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  4. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Philly stand up
     
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  5. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I'd hardly say that Jones out-boxed him in their first fight. Regardless, I doubt anyone is saying Soto Karass is suddenly one of the best fighters in the world. He is what he is - a very tough, determined, strong fighter who can give most fighters trouble on his day.
     
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  6. MannySteward

    MannySteward Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He clearly beat Mike Jones in the first fight. Guessing you are referring to the second fight with '(2x)'.

    But i think JSK would be a tough fight for Alexander, Brook, Khan, Ortiz.
     
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  7. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had Karass winning the first Jones fight. Either way, he's a better fighter now than he was a couple of years ago.
     
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  8. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea but people are alraedy saying he deserves a title shot ect. I believe he should get another guy like Berto first. Maybe he should fight the Ghost now.
     
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  9. Superkalleb

    Superkalleb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he was robbed in the first fight against Jones.
     
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  10. ACS

    ACS Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rosado is a big guy and it was at 154, Rosado ****s up any 147lber up at 154
     
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  11. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Berto wasn't shot in there, he just was never that great to begin with. A classic case of a fighter that had talent but coasted on it and never refined his craft. Berto is a brawler with fast hands and heart, but he doesn't possess defense, he fights stupidly, headhunts a ton, low workrate, and a questionable chin. His speed was enough to get him by against handpicked opposition and once he stepped up, he got exposed.

    As for Soto-Karass, he is a very tough gatekeeper level guy with a huge motor, heart, good length, and a very good chin. He's not good against boxer-types around the same level like Alfonso Gomez, Yuri Foreman, Mike Jones(when not punching himself out), Rosado, etc, because the movement and technique gap is too wide for him to overcome, but stick him in against a non-boxer type and at the least he will give them hell.
     
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  12. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    Rosado is very good and very,very underrated.

    He schooled Love like it was no big deal.
     
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  13. ArtOWAR

    ArtOWAR Fartdawg Full Member

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    stfu
     
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  14. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rosado/Love was a close fight. Rosado probably should have gotten the nod, but having Love winning by a point ins't absurd. He controlled most of the action
     
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  15. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal
     
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