That skilled feinting ferocious Manny vs current Floyd

the savage pacquiao that walked through cotto in 2009 would have beaten up mayweather. i dont like how that version of pacquiao was hurt so much by a fighter ,that never even knocked him down in three prior fights.

 

Well, he has his number the same way Norton had Ali's. Pacquiao's too good to be totally dominated, but stylistically , Marquez is a problem for him.

 

True,

This is what you call having someones number:

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Roach used the phrase, it applies IMO.

 

That's called outclassed. :smoke

 

Why do boxing fans express themselves as if Floyd has balls to face the best.

 

I beg to differ. JMM is a great fighter in his own right. And all the style points in the world mean nothing if you can't stand up to the shots that Marquez eats regularly from Pac.

Hell, even he has trouble staying upright. It takes a hell of a man to fight Pac the way JMM does.

 

Peak Pacquiao from 2009 would have beaten any version of Floyd. That's why Floyd never fought him, there can be no other reason for Floyd's reluctance and bull****. 09 Pacquiao had the movement, speed, power, output and resilience to wear Floyd down and hurt him badly. If they fought now Floyd wins handsomely, but back then would have been a very different story, that's why PBF tied himself in knots trying to avoid the fight. :deal

 

This was an intelligent discussion. How did you get here?

 

Oh....My....God!!! When will this man ever give a future HOF'er and true ATG his credit. So JMM simply just "has his number" But instead, we should give Pacquiao all the credit for fighting JMM 4 times.

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I am quite surprise Manny can get as far as he did with that crazed style of his. Manny was never at Floyd's level. People are blind, stupid and flat out dreaming.

You got one guy who got less experience, no amatuer background swinging wildly half the time, one armed fighter for 80% of his career and have poor defense with bobbing his head back and forth as "head movement" and hardly any lateral movement. All pac got is speed, power, and aggression. You put someone smart in there with him and he is done.

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Someone like Floyd who does everything damn near perfect and has been crafted since he was two.

Is no comparsion.

With that said, i would never take any gambling advice from Pacsuckers, dumb as **** and blind as ****.

 

It's really not that simple.

 

Oh really?

Pac have been beaten early, mid and late in his career. Two bums beat him, out of shape/ out of prime Morales beat him and 39 year old JMM knocks him out cold.

When they've finally figured out that he can't hang with a slick style, they put him against walking punching bags so it will FIT his style. Or drain the his opponents or fight them coming of bad losses while his head continues to grow every year.

 

And for the people who thinks JMM's win is irrelvant should check the sports book.

2009 Floyd was a 2-1 in favorite and after team pac robbed JMM in the 3rd match, oddsmakers made bump Floyd up to -240. After JMM KOs Pac there was no line for a potential Floyd fight. Manny threw that **** to the gutter.

If Manny can't beat JMM, how the **** is he going to beat Floyd who is every way better than JMM.

Don't believe me just check the oddsmakers if a fight EVER will be considered again.

 

Two sub-par fighters did beat him early in his career. Why? He was fragile back then and far from durable. Yet he managed to beat Chatchai Sasakul, Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, arguably beat Juan Manuel Marquez in their first fight (some say the second, although I can't really see it), and destroyed Marco Antonio Barrera. All of them were well-schooled fighters and intelligent ring generals. I'd wager all of those guys were far more intelligent than the likes of Torrecampo and Singsurat. Wouldn't you?

And this was BEFORE the Diaz, De La Hoya, Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, and Clottey days.