That skilled feinting ferocious Manny vs current Floyd

Every way better? He's better in a lot of areas, but not EVERY area.

 

Oh when Pac loses is excuses but when Barrera gets beat that is some premium **** huh?

You think Barrera knew that Pac was going to be a tough fight? Fighting an unknown. They were caught off guard with that wild swinging style. But hey why make excuses for those guys. Only Pac gets valid excuses.

And you think JMM or Barrera is on the same skill level as Floyd than i feel sorry for you and ur vcash reflects its accuracy. You can know about the sport, just don't have the logic or common sense.

 

I hope all *******s bet all their money against Floyd if Pac can ever crawl back from getting flatten by a 39 year old.

This is not 2004 when pac have a unqiue style. His blueprint is laid out for everyone to see. At this point Broner would probably kick Pac's wild swinging style.

 

The blueprint for beating Pacquiao has been laid out since 2004. But knowing it is one thing, EXCECUTING is a whole diffrent story.....So far only two guys have, JMM, the guy who laid it out, and Erik Morales.

 

What are you on about? My logic is fine. You said put Pacquiao in with an intelligent fighter and it's over. I dissected that statement by explaining how Pacquiao has beaten a number of intelligent fighters (and adaptable/versatile fighters such as Barrera), who had higher ring IQ's and more to offer in the skill department than guys like Singsurat and Torrecampo, who beat Pacquiao because of their punching power and Pacquiao's lack of durability at the time. He obviously improved tremendously as a fighter since that time. I'm not making excuses for his losses. I'm simply telling it like it is. Morales beat him because he had a combination of intelligence, durability, heart, and a style that troubled Pacquiao greatly. Marquez just sparked him because he's a truly great fighter with the technique, reactions, and movements of hand and feet to get to Pacquiao, and the toughness to survive rocky moments. No excuses for Pacquiao's losses there. He lost to better fighters than him on those nights - and guys I think beat him at their best. Hell, I was rooting for Morales back then and I was jumping for joy when Marquez knocked him out.

It's not simply a matter of "put Pacquiao in with intelligence and it's over." Even before Pacquiao's most recent loss, 99% of people had him beating six/seven of all trades Bradley - a decently intelligent fighter with nice versatility. And that's on top of him beating quality intelligent operators like Marquez, Barrera, Sasakul, and Ledwaba in the past. Clearly you're dealing in an absolute that has been proven wrong time and time again.

I never said Marquez or Barrera were more skilled than Mayweather or on the same level head-to-head historically either. I don't think they are. I have absolutely no idea how you came up with that - you're building a straw man. Stick to what I said and don't make **** up. Me saying Marquez does some things better than Mayweather (countering in combination body and head for example) does not equate to me saying he's on the same level skill-wise. Somebody like Wladimir Klitschko has a better jab than Lennox Lewis, but it doesn't mean he's more skilled or well-rounded. See?

I made one bet years ago with the vCash on the under for some fight I can't remember, lost, and never bet again. I don't even bother to look at it, so it reflects nothing. If you think it does still, it's just too small of a sample size to reflect anything significant, so drop that. Sound good? :good

 

*******s and *****s alike only see in black and white, it's a sad thing for the sport. I mean come on, the dude says Pac has no lateral movement? The ****?

 

A one handed CRAZY AS **** and extremely dangerous buzzsaw is how i would describe him better.

 

You're right. It's just absolutes when them.

*******s and *****s are ridiculous. They'll ***** about the other, but don't realize that they're the exact same on the complete opposite side of the "extremes" spectrum. *******s worship Manny like a God and try to diminish the success/ability his opponents and other top fighters. I've even seen some say they hate Donaire *****s do the same with Mayweather - defend him to no end, refuse to believe he can do wrong, and chose not to give credit to Marquez (rather take away from and talk down Pacquiao). I've also noticed that a lot of *****s seem to have one stylistic mold in mind and consider all other stylistic molds inferior.

 

...you're probably right now that I think about it. He's poetry in motion.

 

Who did Paciqauo beat that is not tainted?
Barrera had a long carrer and been through wars. Pac can have this credit.
Morales the same and had to drop from 180 to make 130. How much credit?
Oscar was a walking zombie which he did to himself. How much credit?
Hatton was suffered an embrassing defeat from Floyd. How much credit?
Clottey is a walking punching bag and bascially a contender. how much credit?
Cotto drained. I'll give him credit for this.
Margo took a brutal beating from shane and drained coming off long laid off looking like **** against his tune up
Shane is even more over the hill. How much credit?
Partake in a rook job with Bradely
And robbed JMM and Koed by him

WHoop de doo. who has he fought that was dangerous? tell me.
How much edge does he need? mental, physical and S&C coach, promoter?

 

If you don't think Barrera in '03 and Cotto in '09 at an absolute minimum were two solid-gold wins/performances, your brain is a pile of stale semen.

 

:rofl:rofl keep dreaming