That was a great fight!

this_and_that · Nov 13, 2011

NorthernCross said: ↑

I saw the fight live too, and I would have thought this was a draw if not for the compubox numbers. There was a sequence during the fight wherein both fighters tagged each other in succession, and I looked at that sequence as the epitome of the fight.

Seriously, suggesting that the view that Pac won this fight fair and square as being less objective than any other view, that is an overstatement at best.
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You are talking about that epic badass round 9.:good

NorthernCross · Nov 13, 2011

boxinger said: ↑

yup great "chess" match fight,

no robbery, it was a close fight

pacqiao was much more technical tonight

but i dont think i would like to see a 4th match, it will all be the same again,
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I agree with this. Tonight proved that Pac is a damn good fighter, but so is JMM.

nuges · Nov 13, 2011

First fight of pac that I bought since cotto, and I wont buy again unless he fights floyd. Sad to see a boring non-aggressive pac, and only good fight was alvarado/breidis *yawns*

o_money · Nov 13, 2011

NorthernCross said: ↑

Props to JMM who showed the fans he still has it. Honestly, based solely on what I saw about the way both fighters fought and we able to succeed against each other, I would have called this a draw. Thing is, based on the Compubox scores it appears that Pac edged JMM on both punches landing and power shots hitting. Based on those numbers, Pac seems to have fought a more technically sound fight than the previous two fights.

I believe JMM knew this too, since he seemed to be over-selling his post-fight celebration right after the final bell. Still, he has nothing to be ashamed of, considering the fact that he's a LW held his own against against someone who as dominated top WWs.
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Nah I don't think it was a great fight. In fact I think it was the least entertaining of all the fights. JMM boxed well and really limited the action. It was brutally onesided for the first 2/3 of the fight as well. So bad infact I was starting to wonder if JMM was going to knock pac out. JMM got tired in the late rounds and lost a few of them. But Manny getting back into a onesided beaating was hardly a reason to get excited about it. If you want to talk about after fight celebrations lets talk about Manny. The guy didn't even have one.

Manny's own friend and stable mate Amir Khan, who was guest commentating for PrimeTime had Manny losing bad.

o_money · Nov 13, 2011

this_and_that said: ↑

I still don't get why people are saying this is a wide win for JMM.
Where the hell did you watch it? On a poor 14" CRT monitor via web streaming?

I think if JMM didn't step off the gas on rounds 11-12 and somehow managed to avoid a KD, then he would've won.

Otherwise, it's still a 115-113, Pac win for me.
Pac was clearly the more effective aggressor, much of you joyboys proabably didn't even see that much of JMM's punches were getting blocked and evaded cleanly.

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, except for those few moments he let JMM initiate and simply counterpunch.
JMM's defense was clearly superior, but Pac's wasn't all that bad either. He dodged a lot of punches FFS.

Bottom line is, volume punching + workrate but ring generalship won that fight for Pac, however it's undeniable that JMM has always been the crispier and cleaner puncher of the two.
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WTF dude, WTFatsch

this_and_that · Nov 13, 2011

o_money said: ↑

WTF dude, WTFatsch
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Only time JMM controlled the tempo was rounds 5-8
Beyond that it was all Pac.
God watch the fight on a decent screen people.

MetalLicker · Nov 13, 2011

this_and_that said: ↑

I still don't get why people are saying this is a wide win for JMM.
Where the hell did you watch it? On a poor 14" CRT monitor via web streaming?

I think if JMM didn't step off the gas on rounds 11-12 and somehow managed to avoid a KD, then he would've won.

Otherwise, it's still a 115-113, Pac win for me.
Pac was clearly the more effective aggressor, much of you joyboys proabably didn't even see that much of JMM's punches were getting blocked and evaded cleanly.
Pac was also dictating the tempo of the fight all night long, except for those few moments he let JMM initiate and simply counterpunch.
JMM's defense was clearly superior, but Pac's wasn't all that bad either. He dodged a lot of punches FFS.

Bottom line is, volume punching + workrate but ring generalship won that fight for Pac, however it's undeniable that JMM has always been the crispier and cleaner puncher of the two.
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obviously webcasting. Do you think a Manny hater would buy the fight legit and contribute to his PPV numbers? Fat chance.

NorthernCross · Nov 13, 2011

o_money said: ↑

Nah I don't think it was a great fight. In fact I think it was the least entertaining of all the fights. JMM boxed well and really limited the action. It was brutally onesided for the first 2/3 of the fight as well. So bad infact I was starting to wonder if JMM was going to knock pac out. JMM got tired in the late rounds and lost a few of them. But Manny getting back into a onesided beaating was hardly a reason to get excited about it. If you want to talk about after fight celebrations lets talk about Manny. The guy didn't even have one.

Manny's own friend and stable mate Amir Khan, who was guest commentating for PrimeTime had Manny losing bad.
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His goal was a wipe-out, and he didn't get one. That's not the same as saying that he actually thought he lost. I know a lot of disappointed Pac fans who reacted the same way even though they didn't believe that Pac lost.

Can't really speak about Khan's reaction, since I haven't heard it yet.

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