Thats it, they gotta stop painting the canvas

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by nezy37, Jun 14, 2009.


  1. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just got a chance to watch the fight now and this **** is a joke.

    Fighters have to start demanding that it stop. How many times did Clottey slip, almost a dozen I'd say.

    Fighters at that level should have the power to stop it at least

    I understand it is probably a good source of revenue, but they gotta find another way, maybe they could do it through the TV, similar to the first down line in football.


    116-111 is a ****ing joke. I didn't score it yet, but come the **** on:-(

    My first impression Clottey may have won a close decision but he didn't do enough down the stretch to ensure that win, he had Cotto in trouble up until the 10th and then he backed off a bit giving Cotto the win.
     
  2. Shattered Glass

    Shattered Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your analysis is correct. Also, you are right in saying Clottey slipped a lot. However, he does have the tendency to get wild anyway. I wouldn't say 12 times though - maybe 2 or 3 noticeable times.
     
  3. boricua100%

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    Exactly my opinion!!:good
     
  4. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I agree with the paint on the canvas, it's ****ing fighters up bigtime and it's only a matter of time before someone slips into a big shot.

    Either work out footwear that doesn't slide on the canvas or get rid of the painting.

    Anyone with impartial eyes on this fight scored it 6 rounds to 6 rounds, the KD = Victory for Cotto.. You've got to score fights round by round, not gut instinct.
     
  5. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Seriously people, I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but how could anyone give Cotto the 11th round, seriously?
     
  6. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not saying I did, as you can see I didn't score the fight yet.

    What I am saying is Clottey could have stoped Cotto had he continued with the presure.
     
  7. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I didn't - but he still won the fight without it.
     
  8. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Clottey isn't a KO fighter, he doesn't have the punch to do it, and for him he was already fighting at a pace he hardly ever fights at. Fact is, he doesn't have to knock a guy out, this is what judging is supposed to account for. He did was he was supposed to, he landed the cleaner punches, blocked most of cotto's flurries, dictated the pace, and out punished Cotto.
     
  9. David_TheMan

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    How? Besides the Rounds 1, 6, and 12 what rounds did you give to Cotto and why?
     
  10. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So he had Cotto buzzed multiple times in the fight but he isn't supposed to KO a guy? Tell me why he shouldn't stop him and take it out of the judges hands. You are in NY before the Puerto Rican parade, its Cotto's home turf nd you are confident that you are going to win a close decision.


    You know as well as I do it doesn't always take just one punch.....last time I checked the guy that stoped Cotto did it with about 500 punches.
     
  11. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    3 - Clottey went to sleep after the good round he had in Round 2, allowed Cotto to be busier and ultimately, despite a lesser connect percentage, Cotto landed more due to the volume

    4 - Closer round than 3, but Cotto had Clottey against the ropes, was moving him around and prior to the accidental headbutt, was the far busier fighter.

    10 - Following on from him dominating 7, 8 and 9 - Clottey went to sleep in the 10th, he threw the cleaner shots but he didn't throw enough of them, Cotto backed Clottey up several times and was the busier fighter.

    That combined with 1 - the knock down, 6 - Clottey still hurting from the knee injury allowing Cotto to move and land better and 12 - Clottey going to sleep again, is 6 rounds, with the knock down, meaning 114-113 Cotto.
     
  12. Club Fighter

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    Agreed.
     
  13. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    He had him buzzed, but it is not his nature, he isn't a high volume puncher and he really doesn't like to take too many risks. He shouldn't be penalized by judges for "not taking over the fight and ending it", when he still won many of those rounds if you go by what you are supposed to judge a round on, defense, clean punching, effective aggression, and ring generalship.
     
  14. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First of all you are talking like Clottey blew Cotto away, that didn't happen. The fight was still in question going into the 10th, as such Clottey should't have taken his foot off the gas.

    Especailly considering where the fight was, thats just the way it is and you have to know that.

    So he was willing to throw a high volume earlier but later he wasn't?
     
  15. Random1

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    After Clottey started slipping I started watching their feet more and I saw Cotto slip once obviously, and I believe one other time as well. Clottey, of course, was all over the place, but it did get worse after his fall, so his leg comes into account on that. Either way I agree that they really shouldn't paint the canvas that late if it could still be wet.