Thaxton & McGuigan debate Tyson Fury's career

Yeh he needs to try and fight a better quality of opponent.

 

I enjoyed it aswell i like when you have that sort of debate and Jim let them go at it and they both had good views i agree more on Thaxtons side maybe two more learning fights then push him to that level but it's hard to argue against Barry's view so in reality Hennessey has some hard choices to make with Tyson.

 

I think it would be good to put Tyson in with somebody like Sprott first. Seasoned, a decent test and a good name. In the event that Sprott should win, it's unlikely to be in a devastating fashion (despite the Audley result!) that wouldn't hurt Tyson's confidence too much and it's something he could come back from.
So two or three more fights, then somebody like Sprott would be a decent gauge of where Tyson's at before putting him in the likes with McCall.

 

Even though McCall is done, he would be a live dog against anybody!

 

What's the rush? Fury is only a baby in the sport. Yes, he isn't learning a great deal with his current level of opposition, but he would simply get schooled by McCall. Think about it, McCall has seen everything in the game, has been around for a long time, and can still bang a bit. There is far to much pressure on young fighters nowadays to step things up too quickly - you only have to look at what happened to Khan. Thaxton's opinion is spot on imo.

 

Tyson Fury should be put in with McCall, if he cant beat McCall then we know he's going to be yet another domestic level heavyweight. If Tyson Fury wants to make it as a heavyweight he needs to be dealing with limited nothing fighters like Sprott and creaking veterans like McCall ..
And this talk of 'having 2 more fights before taking on McCall' is a bull**** myth that everybody believes in .. When talking about prospects people always want them to take 2 more fights before being tested as if those 2 more fights are going to give the fighter all the knowledge he needs to take on some live contenders .. Thats all bull****, Tyson Fury would learn more about being a fighter if he fought McCall, even if he lost a 12 rounder he'd learn so much more than beating up on 2 domestic level bums ..

The major problem with our domestic level fighters is that they beat up stiffs for years before they actually step up they're opponents, by that time they are set in they're ways, unable to learn anything and cant adapt to superior opposition .. Im all for testing young fighters against veterans who are way past they're best but still know a few tricks that could test the rookie .... Young fighters need to be in hard fights, thats the only way they learn anything ..

 

Novel idea I know...but he could actually step up a level without facing a puncher with a chin as good as McCall.

The truth is somewhere in the middle, it is correct he is learning jack **** by getting it all his own way in a few rounds. It's also true Belshaw to McCall is not the most logical step.

He should fight Cisse Salif or Zack Page if he wants to get some rounds in. Alternatively, he could just go right ahead and fight Danny Williams. Nobody can seriously convince me McDermott is better than Fury, and he gave Williams all he could handle. He's bordering on shot, its not a dangerous step.

 

He's a good shout i agree

 

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You talk about McCall as if hes a 42 year old Larry Holmes .... McCall wasnt even that good in his prime, good chin, a few shots but nothing else ..... If a young fighter has 'true' potential, if he has 'true' ability then he should be able get the better of a tough 12 rounder with a guy like McCall. In the States this is how they bring on and test they're fighters, they put them in with veteran guys to see what they've truly got and i for one want to see what Fury has got instead of waiting round for 5 years watching him look good against bums and then getting knocked out by a guy as talentless as Skelton .. I've seen that a million times at domestic level .... Lets see if Fury has got anything, the only way to do that is to fight good opposition .. Fighters learn zero fighting bums

 

Not really. Danny can't even punch at the moment. In theory he's got a lot of raw power, but I barely saw him connect properly in 24 rounds against John McDermott.

And there is not a chance in hell he's outboxing Fury, his stamina is not the best and he loads up on power shots.

It's a calculated risk.

 

i enjoyed there debate,it was an active fighters viewpoint v a retired boxers view very interesting listening

 

I agree. I always find Jonno really good as a pundit, very honest and comes across very well. McGuigan is a different animal when he's not on Sky too.
I actually like ITV's production of shows, especially their little films before fights (such as the Murray weight debacle last night, and they did a great one on Johnny Nelson a few years ago).
Gabriel Clarke is a bit of a clown though and I get the impression he undermines a lot of boxers. That said, it'll be a shame if ITV do pull the plug.