Thaxton & McGuigan debate Tyson Fury's career

I thought it was a good time to bring this topic back up after Furys fight on Friday night.
I thought McGuigan belittled Thaxton that night and tryed to make him look a bit silly on live TV. Thaxton made the point that Fury was in no way ready for someone of McCall's ability, even an old McCall. Thaxton was right, even a 42 year old McCall would have stopped Fury on Friday. Will McGuigan admit he was wrong? I doubt it

 

Thaxton give good analysis. He deserves that job over Baz IMO

 

Its a fair point, Tyson showed a lot of characteristics that i liked. eg, heart, potentially great jab

He just showed that he needed maybe 5 more fights of staedily increased opposition. Im not gonna debate the resuklts of the fight as thats now irrelevant but Tyson did hold his own with a decent British level fighter of 30 fights in only his 8th pro outing.

The big worries for me are, how much influence has John Fury got in his career? Because that worrys me and also is Tyson the type of guy to learn from his mistakes and improve?

In my view he needs to get a 2-3 more learning fights under his belt and then face Mcdermott again in a rematch. Spend a LOT of time in the gym on his conditioning and get some good sparring. Sorting out his defence is crucial. If he knew how to have blocked Mcdemotts straight rights the fight would have been a lot different

 

Yeah i agree. Hes a nice guy Thaxton as well, they way he congratulated Tom Glover when he beat him was comendable. I just didnt like the way McGuigan spoke to him and laughed off his suggestion that he was not ready to make such a big step up in class. McGuigan said Fury wouldnt learn anything unless he got in the ring and beat someone like McCall. Well the only thing he would learn if he got in with McCall at this stage is how to get up off the canvas!
McGuigan can be very imformative at times but is far too pompous. Mckenzie made a point on big fight review that it would take amatures about 5 years to realise if they were world class or not and he was completely shot down by Barry who said it would take more like 18months. His opinion has to be right and if you disagree he doesnt like it

 

What Fury needs is a better trainer. He fights in a very amature style, i don't see how going back to his amateur trainer was meant to help. He needs someone to help him take advantage of his height and reach and good jab. Mcdermott got past the jab way too easy and Fury's infighting was very poor, he was looping his punches very ineffectively with those big long arms. He would be far more effective if he could keep opponents at range and straighten his shots.

 

I agree with this. In all of Furys other fights he seemed to be the come forward fighter but in this fight, he was on the back foot trying to jab and move. I thought Furys best rounds were the last 2 and that was when he went forward to rough mcdermott up looking for the knockout. I agree though that his jab was his strength but he only threw straight lefts. He would set himself up with the left jab and never threw straight rights to really hurt mcdermott. It meant all mcdermott had to do was walk forward, drop the shoulder and he was in close to land his rights

 

I think he needs a few more fights before he fights somebody like Oliver Mccall, i think he should fight Mcdermott, Rogan an then the winner of the next prizefighter then you can start stepping him up because after fridays performance thers still alot of work to do.

 

I thought the notion of McCall as an opponent this early was a really stupid idea right from the start, and said so.

Needless to say, nothing has happened to changed my mind. You'd have to be out of your mind to stick a green prospect in the ring with even today's McCall.