The 10 Greatest Bantamweights

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  1. JohnThomas1

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    Party pooper :D
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

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    Yeh he's great even if he does resist pleasing the peanut gallery!!!! I look forward to having enough time to read his articles fully. I've kept quiet so far so if i give input it'll at least be informed. Hasn't stopped some tho!!!
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

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    I have to say tho i'd be one extremely happy chappy if he flicked out or pm'd his top 10 heavies!!!!
     
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  4. Flea Man

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    Perhaps my favorite read yet. Good stuff
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    You've got some radical opinions, but that's okay. No one has Jorfe at #5 ( More like #1,#2 or #3 ) or Rose in their top 10 that I have ever read.

    You do your own homework which is good, but I see some omissions of facts, and a narrative that is a little uneven in terms of constancy over the course of the series.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Which facts have I omitted?
     
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    I’m glad because it was absolutely abysmal a few days before publishing! Had to enlist a good friend for some words of encouragement to steer me off a bit of writing depression haha!
     
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  9. ChrisJS

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    Another excellent write-up with some insight I’d not seen before. I’m surprised to find you thought the Caraballo fight was an ugly one though. I felt for most of the bout it was a really good one with Caraballo getting a bit messy near the end. I agree that the Colombian had the look of a boxer who could have amassed some impressive numbers in another era. I heavily factor that into my own personal rating system when it’s clear to me a guy could have been and passes the eye test but ran into a legend. This is especially true when you can only have one champion.

    I felt Harada got the benefits of close ones in Japan but the close ones outside of Japan I felt he was on the wrong end. My own personal scores had him roughly 1-1-1 in the title fights with Jofre and Harada but feel firmly that he didn’t lose his Flyweight title and that he beat Famechon the first time.

    The 1960s Bantamweight era is one of the eras that I hope is stored away in an archive when I get to heaven so I can have access to ALL of the fights.
     
  10. Flea Man

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    I think I said myself that Caraballo would likely have racked up multiple title defences in another era in this article mate.

    I’m really glad that you in particular enjoyed this one.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Oh, and by the way; the reason I didn’t cover the Harada fights in my Jofre piece is that I’ve taken an @apollack approach; Jofre’s final successful title fight was covered because I knew I would cover Harada’s title winning effort in the next instalment.

    Hence why more context is given to Jofre’s losses in the Harada piece rather than vice versa.
     
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  12. ChrisJS

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    Gonna harbor a guess and say Joe Lynch will be the third ranked.
     
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  13. Flea Man

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    Joe Lynch might well make an appearance.

    But what would put him over Jofre/Harada/Ortiz?
     
  14. Vysotskyy

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    LHW so you can place Greb at #1 and make all the casuals and historians who follow the party line like sycophant academics ree.

    Greb > Charles comfortably.
     
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  15. Flea Man

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    It’s down to Greb and Charles for me, for sure.

    LHW is the only division (I THINK!) in which the top 2 fighting it out for top spot in my list were not world champs. I believe that’s correct anyway....yeah, that’s right.

    The most difficult would be 122 I think. Attell, Kilbane, Dixon, Bazooka Gomez....a tough one to weigh everything up in.