If a knockdown means a point deduction for the fighter who went down then how would the judges score it if a fighter is winning a round (and is on course to be awarded it by 10-9) or is completely dominating it (and is on course to be awarded it by 10-8) but then gets knocked down himself? Wouldn't that mean that the round would be scored 9-9 in the first instance and 9-8 in the second? Both of which would contradict the 10 point must rule. Would both fighters then be given an extra point, making it 10-10 or 10-9, to ensure that at least one fighter gets 10 points?
False. It would be 10-9 for the fighter who got dominated but scored the knockdown ...which is entirely fair. "But he otherwise got dominated!" one might protest. Yes, which is why he doesn't get the full 10-8.
The only mandatory point deductions are foul penalties. Also the only way to have neither combatant have 10 points is through foul penalties.
So is it up to each individual judge to decide whether a fighter that has been knocked down has a point deducted?
ive only seen a couple times the judges ignore the knockdown pac was ruled down vs shane mosley and won 10-9 on 2 judges score cards with shane winning 10-9 on the other. if both people are down once each it's a 10-9 round with who wins or 10-10 if you truly believe it was a dead even round.
You can't say you dominated a round if you got dropped. Your first priority as a fighter is to make sure you do not get dropped
10 point must system just means you must start with 10. This is a misconception like the ref's 10 count where people seem to think it's 10 seconds.
Most of you guys are wrong. You are taking the 10 pt ''must'' system too literally. In the case of both going down there will be at least a point deducted from both so neither can score 10 pts. 1 pt is not added to both fighters to bring the score of at least one of them to 10. If you saw on a fighters record a rd where the score was 10-9 or 10-10 yet both went down you would have no way of knowing there was 2 kd's in that rd.
You can't be awarded points. Both fighters start with 10 points and only via deductions can you change the numbers. Losing a round = a deduction, being knocked down = a deduction, ref taking a point = deduction. So if you are winning a round, the other guy is deducted a point. If you are knocked down, you are now deducted a point. So the score would be 9-9(depending on how dominant, you would have to be battering your opponent usually to get even with a kd, most of the times it will be 10-8 even if the guy was losing the rd. There's a system but it's done by human subjectiveness, not a computer). If neither fighter really lost a round(draw)you deem it 10-10. Outside of a kd or a ref deduction, the only way to be deducted a second point is to lose a round completely(usually you have to be battered from pillar to post throughout). So for your second example it would be 9-9: point deduction for losing the rd, but even if he was being battered from pillar to post it probably wasn't bad enough to deduct 2 points since he scored a kd himself, which is a deduction for the other guy. Ofcourse the kd also matters, if the kd was weak, maybe more off balance, you can score it 9-8(or maybe even ignore it if it was bullsht), if it's a legit kd 9-9. Maybe it will make it simpler to think of it like this, the winner/loser round deductions are only done AFTER the round is finished. A kd, ref deduction are decided during.
You see these kinds of threads periodically come up. NO, there cannot EVER be a round where a fighter does not get 10 points if no point deduction is issued. Ward/Rodriguez, I believe the 4th round was an 8-7 for Ward because 2 points were deducted from each fighter. Even in the event of knockdowns for each fighter, the fighter who wins that round overall will be awarded 10 points. However, the round could also be a 10-10 round if both fighters have an even round with 1 knockdown each. You often see people giving 9-9 or 9-8 rounds with a knockdown for each fighter and it's just so wrong.
