The 100 Greatest Ever Boxing Matches

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  1. McGrain

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    My pa got me this book for Christmas. He's a good man my pa. It's one of those ones where, because we're geeks, we know most of the info that's in a book that's aimed at the mainstream, but it's still really nice to have because it's full of lovely pictures and you learn one or two things about fights you've never really looked into...it's a nice book. Thanks to the old man.

    Anyway, some of the fights in it made me :huh. Jones-Toney is in there. Thinking about it, I like that inclusion. It's the two best in the world at that time having a fight, and one of the best clinics there is on film. You could definitely argue that there are one-hundred greater fights, but I think it's ok for the tail end of such a list for those reasons. The finest moment for another Jones, Tiger, is also in there, his fight with Robinson. This was another head scratcher, but isn't it the single greatest performance ever by any journeyman, arguably? It's true that Robinson had been out of the ring, but he had great wins ahead of him. Another one that is borderline, but it's ok that it's in.

    My question is, what borderline fights would you include? Some, like Ali-Frazier, they write there own defences in celluloid - others, they need a bit of explaining. Which fights would you include that you feel you would need to explain? What are your disputable choices, and how would you defend their inclusion?

    Merry Christmas.
     
  2. Lights Out

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    Azumah Nelson vs Salvador Sanchez- The last title fight at that version of Madison Square garden (im pretty sure). Sanchez was one of the best boxers in the world at 23 yeard of age and was having his 10th title defence he won in a stunning upset when he schooled Danny Lopez. This was seen as a easy defence against a novice boxer. It was a great fight with a lot of skill on display. Despite Sanchez dropping Nelson in 7th he was behind on the scorecards coming into the 15th and last round. He dramatically turned it around and scored a stoppage to hold on to his championship. This was the end of one legends journey and the start of anothers. He died while training for a rematch and in turn Nelson got a win over a legend in Wilfredo Gomez (ironically stopping him while down on the scorecard too- which was bull****). Azumah Nelson of course became one of the great featherweights of all time.

    Thats why for me that fight should rank up there in terms of great boxing matches. It has a little of evreything
     
  3. McGrain

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    Hell yes. That should be in. Doesn't make the actual book...Nelson's scrap with Fenech makes it as does his lifting the title versus Ruelas aged 37.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    The Ruelas fight is crap, really. Ruelas is terrible at that point in time, completely disregarding his technical skills, in favour of his power. Nelson just gives him a bit of a doing. I much prefer Nelson vs Leija 1,2 and 3 over the Ruelas rematch.
     
  5. Lights Out

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    Shane Mosley beating Oscar De La Hoya in the win of the decade was a brilliant fight between two top class boxers. Its a shame Oscar lost a bs decision beforehand otherwise it could have beem two undefeated boxers in there
     
  6. BatTheMan

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    Looks like a great book. Is there anywhere one can see which fights it contains?
     
  7. BatTheMan

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    Ring Magazine has made a list like this in 1996:

    1.Muhammad Ali KO15 Joe Frazier, September 30, 1975
    2.Rocky Graziano KO6 Tony Zale, July 16, 1947
    3.Jack Dempsey KO2 Luis Firpo, September 14, 1923
    4.Joe Frazier W15 Muhammad Ali, March 8, 1971
    5.Tony Zale KO6 Rocky Graziano, September 27, 1946
    6.Joe Louis KO13 Billy Conn, June 18, 1941
    7.Marvin Hagler KO3 Thomas Hearns, April 15, 1985
    8.Aaron Pryor KO14 Alexis Arguello, November 12, 1982
    9.Sugar Ray Leonard KO14 Thomas Hearns, September 16, 1981
    10.Joe Gans DQ42 Battling Nelson , September 3, 1906
    11.Ad Wolgast KO13 Joe Rivers, July 4, 1912
    12.Henry Armstrong W15 Lou Ambers, August 17, 1938
    13.Julio Cesar Chavez KO12 Meldrick Taylor, March 17, 1990
    14.Terry McGovern KO8 George Dixon, January 9, 1900
    15.Arnold Taylor KO14 Romeo Anaya, November 3, 1973
    16.Rocky Marciano KO13 Jersey Joe Walcott, September 23, 1952
    17.Michael Carbajal KO7 Humberto Gonzalez, March 13, 1993
    18.Tommy Ryan KO17 Tommy West, March 4, 1901
    19.Ad Wolgast KO40 Battling Nelson, February 22, 1910
    20.Chartchai Chionoi KO13 Efren Torres, January 28, 1968
    21.Roberto Duran W15 Sugar Ray Leonard, June 20, 1980
    22.Bobby Chacon W12 Cornelius Boza-Edwards, May 15, 1983
    23.Larry Holmes W15 Ken Norton, June 9, 1978
    24.Carmen Basilio W15 Sugar Ray Robinson, September 23, 1957
    25.Jack Johnson KO12 Stanley Ketchel, October 16, 1909
    26.Archie Moore KO11 Yvon Durelle, December 10, 1958
    27.Carmen Basilio KO 12 Tony DeMarco, November 30, 1955
    28.Willie Pep W15 Sandy Saddler, February 11, 1949
    29.Gene Fullmer KO 14 Carmen Basilio, August 28, 1959
    30.Harry Greb W 15 Mickey Walker, July 2, 1925
    31.Floyd Patterson KO6 Ingemar Johansson, March 13, 1961
    32.Sugar Ray Robinson KO3 Rocky Graziano, March 13, 1952
    33.Muhammad Ali KO8 George Foreman, October 30, 1974
    34.Rafael Herrera W15 Venice Borkorsor, October 13, 1973
    35.Matthew Franklin KO8 Marvin Johnson, April 22, 1979
    36.Rocky Marciano W15 Ezzard Charles, June 17, 1954
    37.Oscar Albarado KO15 Koichi Wajima, June 3, 1974
    38.Saman Sorgaturong KO7 Humberto Gonzalez, July 15, 1995
    39.Alexis Arguello KO13 Ruben Olivares, November 23, 1974
    40.Alexis Arguello KO13 Alfredo Escalera, February 4, 1979
    41.Wilfredo Gomez KO14 Lupe Pintor, December 3, 1982
    42.Nigel Benn KO10 Gerald McClellan, February 25, 1995
    43.Jake LaMotta KO15 Laurent Dauthuille, September 13, 1950
    44.Buster Douglas KO10 Mike Tyson, February 11, 1990
    45.Kid Gavilan W15 Carmen Basilio, September 18, 1953
    46.Evander Holyfield W15 Dwight Muhammad Qawi, July 12, 1986
    47.Dick Tiger W15 Gene Fullmer, October 23, 1962
    48.Ted Lewis W12 Jack Britton, August 31, 1915
    49.Roberto Duran W12 Iran Barkley, February 24, 1989
    50.Benny Leonard KO6 Richie Mitchell, January 14, 1921
    51.Bobby Chacon W15 Bazooka Limon, December 11, 1982
    52.Stanley Ketchel W20 Billy Papke, July 4, 1909
    53.Iran Barkley KO3 Thomas Hearns, June 6, 1988
    54.Riddick Bowe W12 Evander Holyfield, November 13, 1992
    55.Rafael Herrera KO12 Rodolfo Martinez, April 15, 1973
    56.Ruben Olivares W15 Chucho Castillo, April 18, 1970
    57.Bobo Olson W15 Kid Gavilan, April 2, 1954
    58.Jeff Harding KO12 Dennis Andries, June 24, 1989
    59.Paul Banke KO9 Daniel Zaragoza, April 23, 1990
    60.Muhammad Ali W15 Ken Norton, September 28, 1976
    61.Beau Jack W15 Bob Montgomery, November 19, 1943
    62.Jim Jeffries KO8 Bob Fitzsimmons, July 25, 1902
    63.Carlos Monzon W15 Rodrigo Valdes, July 30, 1977
    64.Vincent Pettway KO6 Simon Brown, April 29, 1995
    65.Vicente Saldivar W15 Howard Winstone, June 15, 1967
    66.Danny Lopez KO15 Mike Ayala, June 17, 1979
    67.Alexis Arguello KO13 Alfredo Escalera, January 28, 1978
    68.Carmen Basilio KO12 Tony DeMarco, june 10, 1955
    69.George Foreman KO10 Michael Moorer, November 5, 1994
    70.Kennedy McKinney KO11 Welcome Ncita, December 2, 1992
    71.Simon Brown KO10 Maurice Blocker, March 18, 1991
    72.Sugar Ray Robinson KO5 Gene Fullmer, May 1, 1957
    73.Rocky Marciano KO8 Ezzard Charles, September 17, 1954
    74.Arturo Gatti KO6 Wilson Rodriguez, March 23, 1996
    75.Barney Ross W15 Jimmy McLarnin, May 28, 1934
    76.Rocky Marciano KO9 Archie Moore, September 21, 1955
    77.Fidel Bassa KO13 Dave McAuley, April 25, 1987
    78.Tony Canzoneri W15 Kid Chocolate, November 20, 1931
    79.Robert Quiroga W12 Kid Akeem, June 15, 1991
    80.Jack Dempsey KO4 Georges Carpentier, July 2, 1921
    81.Carlos Santos W15 Mark Medal, November 2, 1984
    82.Steve Cruz W12 Barry McGuigan, June 23, 1986
    83.Salvador Sanchez KO15 Azumah Nelson, July 21, 1983
    84.Matthew Saad Muhammad KO14 Yaqui Lopez, July 13, 1980
    85.Frankie Randall W12 Julio Cesar Chavez, January 29, 1994
    86.Roberto Duran KO11 Esteban DeJesus, March 16, 1974
    87.Jose Becerra KO9 Alphonse Halimi, February 4, 1960
    88.Sugar Ray Leonard W12 Marvin Hagler, April 6, 1987
    89.Marcel Cerdan KO12 Tony Zale, September 21, 1948
    90.Rodrigo Valdes KO7 Bennie Briscoe, May 25, 1974
    91.Carmen Basilio KO9 Johnny Saxton, September 12, 1956
    92.Lee Roy Murphy KO12 Chisanda Mutti, October 19, 1985
    93.Joe Frazier KO7 Jerry Quarry, June 23, 1969
    94.Jorge Castro KO9 John David Jackson, December 10, 1994
    95.Gerald McClellan KO5 Julian Jackson, May 8, 1993
    96.Evander Holyfield W12 George Foreman, April 19, 1991
    97.Mike Weaver KO15 John Tate, March 31, 1980
    98.Aaron Davis KO9 Mark Breland, July 8, 1990
    99.Larry Holmes KO12 Mike Weaver, June 22, 1979
    100.Carlos Palomino KO15 Mando Muniz, January 22, 1977
     
  8. salsanchezfan

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    That book looks amazing. Kind of like a better version of one I have by Bert Sugar called "The Great Fights" which is about 20 fights worth....

    I might have missed it, but didn't see either Morales-Barrera I or Barrera-McKinney. Two great scraps there. Who knows, might have been written before them.
     
  9. teeto

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    McLarnin-Ross 3, i've only seen some of it, but from what i've seen i like a lot. This was the climax of what is still one of the greatest trilogies in welterweight history, Ross the technician vs McLarnin the fundamentally sound puncher.
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Ross vs Mclarnin III is superb. I love it.
     
  11. McGrain

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    McLarnin-Ross does not make it in.

    Tyson-Smith on the other hand...
     
  12. teeto

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    :lol::patsch
     
  13. McGrain

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    "In the first defence of his recently won heavyweight title, Tyson beat "Bonecrusher" Smith on points in a 12 round contest. Bonecrusher failed to live up to his ring-name; he showed little aggression, and only lasted twelve rounds by alternately moving away from the champion and holding him."

    Sounds ****ing awesome, eh?

    Tyson has the most enteries, I think. Aside from Smith he has Bruno I, Douglas and Holyfield I.
     
  14. teeto

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    That's a seriously flawed book then man, i love getting presents like that though, i didn't get anything like that this year, my family need a complaint box, haha i jest.
     
  15. Dempsey1238

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    Thats BS McLarnin-Ross all 3 fights are ten times better than Tyson vs Smith.

    I even put Ross Canzi II over Tyson Smith.