The 140 Pound Tournament - Choose the Combatants

Roberto Duran
Floyd Mayweather
Sugar Ray Robinson

 

File Under: let's kill the idea stone dead. atsch

 

Duran - fought a **** load of fights around 140, weighing 139. This maybe the best fighter at 140 ever

Robinson - fought 25 fights below 140 including some very good wins such as Zivic, Angott, Servo then fought many at 141, 143 and 144, safe to say he makes 140. During this time he first beat LaMotta weighing 145, bare in mind someone like Tyszu weighs 155 on fight night, Robinson is making 140

Mayweather - was perhaps at his peak at 140

 

The point being that the final would likely end up being Robinson-Duran, no?


ps. I meant to leave Mayweather out, hence the edit.

 

Well he has has NINE 140lb title fights and SEVEN 147lb title fights. And guess what, hes back at 140 now looking for a title fight :yep

At his best he beats a few on the list too

 

Possibly although maybe a Robinson who is only a 2year pro gets edged out in the early rounds (no seeding) by a canny veteran like Duran/Whitaker/Mayweather

And Ali probably wins a HW tournament, that doesnt mean leave him out of it, does it?

 

This thread is going to have a ton of great debates...What a list of great names. Besides the champs, I'd like to see Jose Napoles, Henry Armstrong, Joe Gans and Benny Leonard included.
Btw SS, adding a young Billy Graham is very interesting!
Man! What a list!

 

Ali was heavyweight champion they weren't. Duran,for example, never seriously entertained being champ at 140. He was lightweight champ then set his sights on the title at welter.

 

...............How do the rounds play out then? How do we decide who fights whom?

 

I usually did my match-ups on a seed system. 1 faces 32 and so on.

Apologies for not getting to this sooner, but I got kind of busy this week. If you need any help with this tournament, Scientist, then let me know. (PM me if you do.)

I assume match-ups are 15 rounds, with the best version of the fighter at their weight, and if any circumstances (liberal ref, etc) need to be added, then that happens on a per fight basis.

Duran has close to 20 fights at the weight and defeated Saoul Mamby (who also might warrant consideration in place of Jadick, perhaps.) I say that if you include someone like Napoles, he might have to be included as well.

 

Sweet, outstanding list, but I would lose Callahan, Mitchell and Jadick and add in Saoul Mamby and the two Mayweathers. Also, it's up to you, but neither Whitaker or DeLaHoya really spent much time there. They did however, win titles at 140 so that makes them qualified. I might consider two outstanding contenders in Hector Thompson and Alfredo Urbina.

Scartissue

 

I dont think we should include SRR or Duran.

It might be a good idea to only put forward men who either held or fought for title at 140 lbs. At least that way we are likely to have seen enough of them at the weight.

What do you think ?

 

Good idea. It should be champs for me. And the draw shouldn't be seeded, just random. If it's seeded don't bother with 32, cut it to 16. Why go through the motions with 32 vs 1, we know who's going to win.