The 154 division is absurdly deep

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  1. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    But it doesn't matter if they refuse to fight each other.
    The IBF Charlo should fight Williams and Lara should face the other Charlo.
    At least we get Adrade vs Culcay so that's a start.
     
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  2. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The division has Lara, Andrade, the Charlos, Williams, Trout, Cotto, though I think he's washed up, and let's assume Brook as the elite. Those are 8 quality guys and I love a lot of matchups that can be made between them. Martirosyan is world class but he's likely only good enough to lose in competitive fights to the top guys. Then after that there's nothing. 8 really good fighters doesn't quality as a "deep" division. Molina's at 147 now, and you're not proving anything by mentioning Ishe Smith.
     
  3. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It has good star potential, It's not deep. Being able to name 6 fighters doesn't define deep, and certainly not absurdly deep.
     
  4. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    GTGO!
    160 is a wasteland filled with B levels and bums.
    There is not an elite or A-level to be found in 160. Golovkin definitely is no elite.
    Only his 8,000 fans would cuss and say he is.
    He just feeds on the low calibre of fighter presently fighting at 160, which is the weakest I have ever seen it in 80 years.

    The 154 division is not only deeper with more talent laden champions and contender than 160, but the beautiful thing is, they actually fight one another.
    in 2016, the sport's most competitive fights came from the WW & SWW divisions.
     
  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Lot's of US and Central American names in there at the top, so plenty of coverage and hype too.
     
  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Too bad the fights aren't being made. Trout and Vanes get passed around, but the others need to square off against each other to build hype for the division.
     
  7. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Agreed.
    Now that both Charlo brothers hold titles, they have to defend.
    Williams is aggressive and vocal, so I'm sure something is cracking there.

    It will be interesting it Brook returns to 154 although I don't expect him to face top 10 opponents if he does.

    I'd like to see Brook Vs Williams.
     
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  8. Steve_Fox

    Steve_Fox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    correct , its better than bumland
     
  9. ThatsRight11

    ThatsRight11 Active Member Full Member

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    ? yet he lost to lara, would be beaten also by andrade and charlos also have a huge shot at beating canelo, hell the cotto fight was a draw for alot of people!

    The best at 154 is

    1. Lara
    2. Andrade
    3. Vanes/Charlos
    4. Canelo
    5. cotto
     
  10. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think Brook Vs Liam Smith may be in the works, and very likely, a very competitive bout.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I think Brook could take him.
     
  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I like J-Rock. I'm hoping he can be a catalyst to get some of those fights made, even if ultimately it is Al's call on who in his stable fights when. He's been targeting Jermall through the IBF, and that'd be a very fan-friendly fight if it comes off.
     
  13. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Charlos...one of whom got dropped by midget Bellamy and out boxed by Jackson the other got run close by Trout? Lara and Andrade are talented but frustrating. Brook is unproven at the weight, Canelo won't be there much longer.
    Williams I do like but he needs a willing dance partner....
    Vanes is meh
     
  14. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Hard to say he is the best when it's arguable that he lost to Lara and Trout, and hasn't fought Andrade, Williams, or the Charlo's.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Lara was considered the best fighter at 154. Regardless if you think he won or not canelo got the decision making him the best at 154 he also beat trout who was highly ranked at the time.