The 17 Fighters of Calzaghe's Era Who Were Better Than Him- are there more or less??

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by DINAMITA, Jul 16, 2008.


  1. DINAMITA

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    Fighters of Joe Calzaghe's generation (Pernell Whitaker definitely cannot be included in this, he was at his peak in the late 1980s and early 1990s, Calzaghe didn't win a world title til 1997. Whitaker belongs to the era before, along with Chavez, Azumah Nelson, the young Holyfield and Tyson, McCallum, Camacho etc etc- guys belong to the era where their peak was) who were DEFINITELY better than him in my opinion, but others could be argued to be too, guys like Naseem Hamed, and current fighters like Miguel Cotto (who will overtake him soon). I rate them as greater on three counts: ABILITY, ACHIEVEMENT and RESUME:

    (not in any order, but obviously RJJ is the clear no1)

    ROY JONES JR
    MANNY PACQUIAO
    LENNOX LEWIS
    BERNARD HOPKINS
    JAMES TONEY
    ERIK MORALES
    SHANE MOSLEY
    MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA
    JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
    KOSTYA TSZYU
    FELIX TRINIDAD
    OSCAR DE LA HOYA
    RICARDO LOPEZ
    WINKY WRIGHT
    FLOYD MAYWEATHER
    JOHNNY TAPIA

    There's 17 greater fighters from his own generation alone. Joe had talent, but he doesn't have the resume to back it up. Nine years from 1997-2006 doing nothing except beating up nobodies like Pocker Tudwill and Rick Thornberry while his contemporaries (that I have just mentioned) fought the best and each other.

    He will never be considered top 10 of his own generation by the boxing world for this reason.

    Thoughts??
     
  2. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Tapia & Wright, no no no no no.
     
  3. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree about Tapia not being better. Wright is close in my opinion.
     
  4. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. DINAMITA

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    I knew Tapia would be the one most people would disagree with. World champion at 3 weights, fought the best around. I think he is right up there with Calzaghe. And I definitely think Winky Wright was better. Undisputed light-middleweight champion, went undefeated for 8 years, again always fights the best, has 2 wins over a prime Shane Mosley and a dominant win over Felix Trinidad on the resume.
     
  6. DINAMITA

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    Glad to see people are agreeing with the other 15 though.
     
  7. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wright is definitely way better than Calzaghe.
     
  8. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wright did not beat a prime Mosley.

    Shane was a rather ordinary fighter post-forrest.
     
  9. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Im not agreeing entirely with the other 15, i'm just discrediting your post due to the Wright and Tapia inclusions. Simmer down
     
  10. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    Barrera is not better then Calzaghe. He got smoked twice by two different fighters Jones and Pacquio. Kessler is much better then Junior Jones in my opinion
     
  11. DINAMITA

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    Dear God, look at the standard of fighter Barrera faced throughout his amazing career! Naseem Hamed was established in the top 10 P4P when Barrera beat him, he was a KO artist at featherweight, a beast, a higher quality and more dangerous opponent at the time than any challenge Calzaghe has taken on. And Barrera dominated him in a career virtuoso performance. Because of Hamed's subsequent loss of desire and retirement, people forget what a sensation it was at the time.
    And Barrera won the best trilogy of the 21st century (aside from maybe Vasquez-Marquez, but I do prefer Erik-MAB personally) 2-1. Three 50/50 thrillers, both men putting it all the line, 2 ATGs, and Barrera coming out with the wins.
    As if that wasn't enough, but the guy also had wins over excellent opponents like Paulie Ayala (a former Ring fighter of the year), Johnny Tapia (3-weight world champion), Kennedy McKinney, Rocky Juarez, Kevin Kelley, Robbie Peden, and he floored and pushed the top 5 P4P Juan Manuel Marquez all the way in the twilight of his career.

    He is 1 of the 1s definitely better than Calzaghe.
     
  12. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    :lol:

    I thought Rick Thornberry and Pocker Tudwill were made up joke names, then I checked on boxrec and I'll be damned, Calzaghe DID fight 'em ! :lol:

    (Except it's Tocker Pudwill, but that's no better)

    I'm half expecting to find Dusty Trunks and Willie Getup among the list of glorious challengers to Calzaghe's WBO super-middle title ! :lol:
     
  13. DINAMITA

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    Bcoz Dusty Trunks beat Calzaghe on points in the amateurs, Joe ducked him when the Trunkster wanted a shot at his WBO title back in '97. Dusty was so frustrated he quit, and went on to manufacture unique boxing gloves that give the palms of the hands extra protection when used as a slapping device.
     
  14. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    It is funny that Tapia and Wright are the only fighters anyone has really had a problem with.

    I agree Tapia is just a step below, but Wright's wins over Trinidad and Mosley are enough for me to have him above.

    I think he lost to Hopkins, and is jeopardizing his legacy with Jones. If he overwhelms Jones with his high output all will be well. If he looks bad against, or loses to, Jones; he'll raise a lot more questions about his career.

    Do me a favor, and post this in the general forum. I would like to see their take on this.
     
  15. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Besides Tapia and probably Wright and Marquez I agree those fighters are better then Calzaghe.