The 25 year old 187lb Holyfield who berbicked Qawi in 4 rounds against Usyk who would have won?

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  1. DanishDynamite

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  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Holyfield wrecks him in 10.
     
  3. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like what I see from Usyk so far. But, Holyfield was a beast back then. Holyfield by decision or late stoppage.
     
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  4. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
  5. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dwight is relentness and very tough. I am not sure Usyk would be ready for him. He would have a hard time landing a clean shot against Dwight. Huge step up in class.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Usyk will come closer to what Holy achieved at heavyweight than any of those others would of or did, he would have destroyed Qawi and Ocasio at heavyweight.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Too slow and the punch Usyk knocked Bellew out with was better than any shot the clumsy Carnera ever threw and there wasn`t much of a gap in height either, maybe Carnera was as tall as AJ but thee are listings saying he was 6'5 which is only two inches taller than Usyk.
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Holy's sloppiness would catch up with him.

    Unanimous draw.
     
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  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quawi is a lot slicker than Bellew and Usyk had trouble connecting on him. Quawi's size and slickness will make it hard for Usky to land notable shots. On the other hand, Quawi would work that body and push Usyk backwards all night. I have a feeling Usyk would not like it.
     
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Bellew countered better against Usyk than Qawi did vs Holy but yes Qawi would land counters on Usyk like Bellew did it`s just that his reach will hurt him Usyk is taller than Holy and has a constant jab which is better than Holy`s was.
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holy and Spinks were better movers than Usyk. I do not think Usky likes to fight on his back foot too much. Would be an interesting fight.
     
  12. ray fritz

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    USYK TAKE HIM OUT IN 5
     
  13. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    When do you guys think Holyfield first started juicing? I always kind of assumed it was around the time he moved up to heavyweight but he had a pretty ridiculous physique at cruiserweight too. Regardless, Holyfield would never pass modern day VADA testing, which Usyk is enrolled in.
     
  14. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Important, and seemingly overlooked elsewhere on this thread.

    Holyfield's record against southpaws was poor; he was 1-3 in his notable fights against lefties (Moorer x2, Byrd, Ibragimov). Usyk's frame is as big as any of those guys, and would have a decent size advantage over a cruiserweight Holy.

    I'd favour Usyk under those terms. A prime heavyweight Holyfield may be a different matter.
     
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  15. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Qawi was a best for sure, but I believe Usyk's movement wins a UD.

    Holyfield would most likely win a UD but pre-PED's Holy was different than the PEDed up
    Holyfield, so it would be a close an exciting matchup.

    Nobody is destroying anyone.