The 5 Hardest World Champion Punchers At 160lbs

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Last time this discussion came up, I said:

    Based on KO percentage:

    Gennady Golovkin 27 fights /24 KOs= 88%

    Gerald McClellan has an 85%KO ratio. 29KOs /34 fights

    Julian Jackson 49 knockouts / 61 fights = 80% KO

    John Mugabi was up at about 78% = 39KOs /50 fights.

    Marvin Hagler had 78% = 52KOs /67 fights

    Stanley Ketchel had 75%= 64 fights 48 KOs.

    Rocky Graziano 77 fights /52 KOs= 62%

    Carlos Monzon 100 fights/ 59 KOs= 59%

    It doesn't tell the whole story such as skill or opposition, but it gives you an idea. There are also some middleweights that grew out of the division and wound up fighting as light-heavyweights like Archie Moore.

    Middleweights who stayed at Middleweight
    Eduardo Lausse 87/63KOs=72%
    Eugene Hart 41/28KOs=68%
    Florentino Fernandez 67/43KOs=64%
    Charles Kid McCoy 116/65=56%
    Bennie Briscoe 96/53KOs=55%
    Tony Zale 87/45=52%
    Charley Burley 98/50=51%
    Al Hostak 84/41KOs=49%
    Freddie Steele 142/60KOs=42%

    Middleweights who moved up to heavyweight
    Archie Moore 219/131KOs=60%
    Bob Fitzsimmons 99/59KOs=60%
    Sam Langford 317/128KOs=40%
    Mickey Walker 164/60=36%
     
  2. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My intuition tells me that Golovkin, wherever he hits you, has unearthly damaging
    punches, maybe comparable to old Fitz in his ability to place his punches to any part of the body, and hurt you terribly...Of course he has not fought anyone of note to guage
    him with the alltime punchers, but====?.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Interesting stuff but we are confined to world champions on this occasion.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Poor old Mr Bamford had stiff thumbs, a result of them having been broken in the cotton mills of Lancashire, he used to bite them through his gloves to loosen them .Reg Gitteridge has a nice line in his book ,"The Big Punchers", " Jock McAvoy was the only fighter who regularly bit the hand that fed him".
    So badly were Jock's hands damaged he had painkilling injections before fights.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You can mention anyone who won the world middleweight title.
     
  6. Terhon

    Terhon Member Full Member

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    So your just going off percentage?

    Then Ketchel at 75% KO ratio isnt as hard a puncher..

    KO ratio dosent translate exactly to amount of power
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Mickey Walker should be mentioned.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No it doesnt, but Hagler' stats indicate he hit hard. Hostak for example has less than 50%ko's, no one denies he was a hard puncher.
    Now stop being pedantically silly.:nono
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I've never thought of Walker as being an especially hard puncher, but he put a lot of lesser guys away.
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He didn’t show it so much in the lower weights, but it is very impressive how he battered light heavyweights and heavyweights.

    Today he would have stopped Paulino Uzcdun on cuts!
     
  11. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No order. Can't limit myself to 5!

    Ketchel
    Steele
    Hostak
    Chip (people forget what a brutal puncher he was)
    Robinson
    Fitzsimmons
    Krieger
    Apostoli
    Graziano
    Jackson
    McClellan
     
  12. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was a Hagler fan and I have to agree. He definitely wasn't nor should he ever be considered one of the big punchers of MW history. Hags relied on timing to land his sharp, energy-zapping counter punches. Those coupled with his debilitating body attack were what accounted for all those KOs. I can't recall anyone he ever fought referring to him as the hardest puncher they ever faced either.

    A second-tier puncher, along with the likes of Monzon.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He's just one of the names I put out ,you don't have to agree with them ,the idea is to make up your own list.
     
  14. Terhon

    Terhon Member Full Member

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    I know just saying he shouldnt be on a hardest punchers list, he hit hard but not that hard.

    Hagler was more an effective puncher.

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    Jackson
    Fitzsimmons
    Ketchel
    Hostak
    Steele
     
  15. Terhon

    Terhon Member Full Member

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