the $8,000,000 ****** on GBP and Rocs back

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  1. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    We all have this idea that Cotto, Canelo and the WBC are allowing the WBC MW title to be held hostage.

    Well, do the math.

    Lemieux is now being sacrificed to GGG in a fight GGG is guaranteed an Est. $4 mil from what I've read.
    Add that to the Est. $3 mil he will get from the Cotto Canelo step aside payment, plus PPV revenue, and even at a meager 300k sales, he's breaking $8 mil from these fights.

    The offer to ward was 50/50, with HBO putting up $5 mil, but at 164, while k2 would promote the fight.
    The other offers were designed to guarantee GGG earned $8 mil for a fight vs Ward at SMW.

    I think ROC knew that not only is Cotto gonna lose to Canelo, but that risking Ward, AND paying off GGG would be devastating to the fledgling company.

    By not risking Ward to GGG, on his terms, they save and build up a bigger, less financially risky fight with GGG down the road.

    In the meantime, ward could get roc in the black by making fights at SMW and winning vs guys like Sturm or Abe....just beating big names even if they've gotta finally get him a passport.

    Gonna be slim pickings, but he'd easily beat the European SMWs, while he waits on his cashout vs GGG or Kovalev after he makes his own splash onto HBO PPV.
     
  2. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    ya i mean...there is no way ward/roc was gonna accept that deal anway....so it was basically just fluff
     
  3. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    that deal to ward from ggg is soooo bad...its so bad that even if ward had said "ok"....ggg and his people would have backed off....and i wouldnt have even been mad....its so bad for both sides that one cant even take it seriously....its so bad that it can only be seen as a posturing joke
     
  4. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which deal. The one that allowed GGG to maintain his DOMINATION at MW, or the one that would have began his DOMINATION of SMW?

    Roc is into him for roughly $1.5 mil each time Cotto defends or contends for GGGs WBC title.

    If you're GGG, let Cotto and Canelo fight a dozen times. LMAO.

    As for WARD, I hope he can get to Abe before Zurdo does.

    That way he can make a good payday in Germany and defend multiple titles over there vs their big names.

    Otherwise, ROC will sink faster than SMS.
     
  5. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    How would BOTH.....BOTH ward and GGG getting CAREER HIGH PAYDAYS be bad for either party.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Source on that 3 mil figure?
     
  7. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doesn't Andrade/his promoters have a 20 million case against Roc now too?
     
  8. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    10% for GGG to step aside from both challenger and opponent.

    Est to be potentially in excess of $3 mil total for the Cotto Canelo fight.
     
  9. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've heard that, but if I remember, it had to do with the Korobov fight for the WBO title, and Andrade turned it down.

    Don't know the specifics, but I don't think ROC hurt Andrade future earnings per say.
     
  10. The Shockmaster

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    lol@ the one that would have begun his domination at super mw....

    that deal is not good...thats why it was offered...nothing more than a deal made to look like one was offered so they can say "we tried...well fight anyone".....k2 knew that deal was no good....thats why it wasnt even considered

    lol at his reign of terror at sw...ward would outbox him easily...thats why k2 doesnt want it...too afraid of the damage to the brand a ud loss would bring....otherwise they would have tried to make the fight forreal
     
  11. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't know the full info myself, but apparently ROC told him to turn down the charlo fight, and they' buy out his contract and give him 500k for giving up the Charlo fight, neither if which happened.

    Wno knows what actually happened, of course
     
  12. The Shockmaster

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    chitown

    whats wards career high purse vs his would be against ggg under that proposal

    also what was wards last purse vs paul smith be vs. his would be against ggg under that proposal?
     
  13. mrdoctor

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    Roc nation bought out ward for several million roc nation paid ward 2 million for his last fight.roc nation did time buy on wards last fight..get the picture here?
     
  14. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ward's highest payday was Vs Erod best I can remember. Est $3 mil

    Had he took the 50/50 164 deal,
    His HBO guarantee would have been $2.5 mil alone, but taking into consideration the 21k fans at MSG....easily over 3
    $3.5 mil.

    Had Roc agreed on the others, ie 168/180/testing.....Ward woulda got 40% of gate and 2 mil from HBO, but ROC would surely have upped the ante to make sure ward was well rewarded.
    Tbh....I've never seen the counter proposals, but the 180 rehydration clause and testing and 40% were all givens.
     
  15. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    They're gonna have to get him a passport....LMAO