The 90s was the 2nd Best HW era..shouldn't Lennox be a Top 3 ATG

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How did Holyfield beat him easily? That fight was a freaking war. It was the Fight of the Year ... unanimously.

    There was nothing easy about that fight.

    Holyfield won by stoppage in a classic. It was an all-time great heavyweight title fight.

    But to say Holyfield beat him easily and Tyson was "shot" is laughable.

    Seriously.

    Neither guy in that fight is "shot." Not even close.

    Holyfield performed better than anyone thought he "could." He didn't win because Tyson was awful. He won because he fought better than he had in years.
     
  2. UFC2015

    UFC2015 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Anyways. A chinny girl like Lenni should not be Top 3. Top 10 i can surely give him. But top 3 is stretching. Real warriors don't go down like girls via one big shot to the face against E grade fighters and then make excuses "This is the heavy weight division, anyone can get knocked out with one punch". Riddiculous, Tyson and Holyfield will laugh and comfortably disagree.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I guess you must think of Thomas Hearns as being a shlt too.
     
  4. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Do you agree with the factually incorrect statement that Marciano fought men 10 to 15 years older?


    Do you agree with the factually correct statement that Tyson fought several men 10 to 17 years older?


    Do you agree the thread starter is factually wrong in his claim?
     
  5. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    The 90's were the progeny of Mike Tyson, big power with heavy media and television exposure. Just like the 80's were progeny of Ali but you only have one Ali, and there's only one Mike Tyson.

    The early 90's was shaping up to be the best but when it panned out the latter half left a lot to be desired. Not so sure it's better than the 80's when it comes to depth since a boat load of 80's heavies found success deep into the 90's.

    Still it was a loaded era. I personally like the 30's, 70's, 90's and 80's all in that order.
     
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  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn't it funny how winning title fights tends to accomplish that.
     
  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Lennox is #6 on my list. His wins over Ruddock, Morrison, Tua, Mercer and Rahman were all very impressive. He was a smart boxer with a killer right hand, good boxing skills, a very good jab and knew how to use his size.

    That being said, you have to be joking if you think that Lewis somehow beat better competition than Ali. Ali has wins over prime Foreman and Frazier, two all time greats. Ali's win over Sonny Liston is also extremely impressive given that Liston likely would have reigned as champion until 1969 if it was not for Ali. I would gladly take Liston of 1964 over the Holyfield of 1999 or the Tyson of 2002.

    And for the genius that stated that Ali was defending his title vs mediocre fighters post Foreman, you have to be joking. After Foreman, Ali fought Frazier, Lyle and Shavers as well as Norton. Those are not mediocre fighters.

    The fact that Holyfield was struggling with Ruiz a year after Lewis shows that Holyfield was indeed far past it. There is a huge difference between 1996 and 1999. Holyfield of the first Tyson fight or even the second Moorer fight destroys Ruiz.

    So while some people tend to underrate Lewis, no he did not compete in the deepest era in hw history, and no neither Holyfield nor Tyson were even close to their primes when these fights happened. Its not Lewis's fault obviously.
     
  8. UFC2015

    UFC2015 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Actually Lenni was a very smart cunning operator who carefully crafted his legacy. He knew exactly when to take on which opponent. He only aggressively started asking for Tyson from 2000 onwards when the whole world knew Tyson was completely past it.
     
  9. Gr8Mandingo

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    Excellent point, Bowe was the X factor that never lived up yo potential
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is easily the best post of the thread!! :good