The ability to clinch and hold, is an important skill.

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  1. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agree or Disagree?

    Although not pretty, I have no complaint with it. It's a valuable skill to have.

    Examples of fighters who have used the clinch well

    Ricky Hatton
    Shane Mosley (See Antonio Margarito fight)
    Wlad K

    Examples of fighters who must learn to clinch :

    Miguel Cotto
    Jorge Linares
    etc.

    Alot of you are complaining about Wlad holding during his fights, will you atleast concede that what he's doing is a skill?
     
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  2. Koman600

    Koman600 Guest

    there is a reason alot of refs don't issue warnings on "excessive holding" its a grey area, since its extremely hard to see who initiates it and conter-initiates it
     
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  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I dont like holding but its a good tool to use when you lack inside game or are hurt.
    Its smart by wlad when a guy gets inside he ties him up.
    People should just deal with it and figure out a way to win, I blame mormeck a lot for the clinches as well, dude basically was just trying to get inside on wlads chest withut throwing anything.
     
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  4. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    yessir Bernard Hopkins does it like a pro
     
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  5. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac coulda used this skill against Marquez; it's one way to prevent return fire (or "smothering"), but I think Pac has a penchant not to clinch out of principle.
     
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  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    He don't know how to play the clinch game
     
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  7. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Yeah, its a good skill, but it sure as hell wont make yo ass popular
     
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  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    This.

    ...:blood...Koman?
     
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  9. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Also, I doubt anyone here who has Boxed before; can deny that they've initiated clinches.
    I used to at times, and I teach the kids that there is times to do it too. Avoiding out of Machismo or some sort of mis placed pride is stupid.
     
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  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    SJS why do you think foreigners, meaning not American, often neglect the clinch skill?
     
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  11. mking

    mking Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto didnt hold one time in the 1st Margo fight, He did in the 2nd fight much better results
     
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  12. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    yooo

    cottos clinching improved in his last fight :)
    lots of work needs to be done though
     
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  13. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    yeahhhhhh
     
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  14. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    i am not a fan of clinching

    but i won't bash the guy if he wins by knockout (unless it takes till the final round)
     
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  15. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    It's a very good skill, but only when you know how to work in a clinch.

    Wlad uses it effectively (for him...but probably should be pulled up more on it), but frustratingly...I wouldn't say he uses it well. If his opponent was relentless and landing shots as he was coming in, then perfect, Wlad would be negating his opponents offense. But once an opponent is mid-range (throwing shots or not), Wlad opts to clinch...he doesn't even attempt to move out of range using his superior footwork the majority of the time.

    Mosley-Margarito is a great example of how to use a clinch. A relentless, pressure fighter in Margarito...make him walk on to shots, then suffocate his opponents work, without making it too obvious.

    Also, Cotto used the clinch perfectly against Margarito in their second bout.
     
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