The Advantages and Disadvantages of Cotto-Margarito

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  1. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    "He was ready to go", "He wasn't willing to give up", "Margarito was exhausted"... quite speculative coming from someone who just called all speculations "garbage", let alone who's talking off the top of his head. :D
     
  2. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    I don't know if I'd call landing flush right hands being "out smarted" :lol: That's a strange choice of words.

    Also Williams is not a big puncher. He didn't have Margarito hurt at any point. That wasn't his intention anyways. His intention was to go in there, land clean punches and survive the 12. No way can Cotto employ this strategy as he is not as big and therefore not as durable as Williams.

    I watched the fight.
     
  3. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    Williams showed no sign at any point of the match that would indicate he was ready to go (hurt, yes, but not to the point of going down).

    Let's say for sake of argument that he was ready to go, that would potentially expose Margarito's inability to finish the job (twice ready to go and yet able to close the fight on a winning note doesn't speak highly of Margarito, if your mission here is to praise him).
     
  4. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    It was late in a fight. Are you honestly saying that you can condemn a fighter for not finishing a guy after throwing so many punches late in a fight?

    No, of course you'd never say ANYTHING that irrational, would you? :rofl
     
  5. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Anyone who thinks that Marg has more power than Cotto is delusional. Its not even close. A volume puncher who breaks guys down, with more power than Cotto, one of the hardest punchers in the sport. Ridiculous.
     
  6. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    Yo that is one biased ass list if I ever seened one.:lol:
     
  7. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    The advantages that Marg has are extremely minute though. Experience won't be a factor. Neither will reach or height as Marg doesn't use it. The biggest factors in this fight will be skill, of which Cotto far excedes Marg.
     
  8. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Power should be equal. Experience definitely goes to Cotto b/c he has fought far better competition and has been victorious.

    I also like how you put stamina and endurance as 2 seperate categories to make it seem like there are come pros for tony. but i'm going to say they are the same and I'd say they are even in this category.

    Height and reach do not matter for marg b/c he doesnt fight tall at all.
     
  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I based power on one punch KO.

    Experience. Margarito has had more pro rounds and more champioship rounds than Cotto.

    Stamina is the consistency of energy level maintained throughout the fight. Endurance is the ability to absorb/endure punishment to the body, arms, shoulders face and still be fresh.

    Height and reach do matter because Margarito is not an in-fighter, he is a brawler that uses his reach to land punches from a distance and closes in for the finish.
     
  10. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Cotto breaks down people as well, rather than relying on KO power. I classify his style as mauling - otherwise I agree with you.
     
  11. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    :good , but the second biggest factors(or just as important factors) will be chin and stamina, which is in favor of Margo.
     
  12. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How can you say Marg has more 1 punch KO power if he is not a 1 punch KO artist. Both Cotto and Marg break down their opponents with a constant onslaught. Not only that, but due to Cotto's more precise punches, they would probably be more powerful than Marg's looping punches.

    Now, another poster mentioned things like footwork, combinations, etc.. and you said you bunched them all up into "skills" category. Why not bunch up endurance/stamina seeing as how those 2 are more closely related then footwork, comination punching, ring intelligence, etc...
     
  13. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Margarito would batter Judah,so i cant totally agree.
    Judah's a beating waiting to happen against the elite,yet he gave Cotto a few problems.He'd be overwhelmed by Margo no problem.
    People point out the feebleness of Cintron,but Judah is so damned fragile himself yet Cotto gets praised for beating him.:huh
     
  14. IsaL

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    Fine, combine them if it makes you happy.:roll:

    But Margarito has the punch to KO anyone with a single shot and against Cotto he especially has the punch to change the momentum or end things.
     
  15. IsaL

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    :good