The AJ "scared" double standards

You are stupid poster who thinks that others here are stupid.

Where there are proofs that Wilder does have bad chin?
Okey, Fury had landed on him damn a lot until get him finished, what a big proof to be glass chinned from 1 fight vs current champion, larger than Wilder is.
A.J then must be more glass chinned than Wilder because Ruiz landed on his head lesser number of punches than Fury on Wilder before he was finished in distance.

Okey, Ruiz then does have better chin, never had been finished in distance unlike A.J or Wilder.

 

I dont know maybe Eric Molina rocking him? And Fury is big so he's a big puncher ? What ?

Joshua got caught with a quick left hook to the temple he didnt see coming and it messed up his balance. In the rematch he took more left hooks and it didn't bother him as much because he wasn't oblivious to them. How about those times Joshua took Klitschkos right straight and his left hooks ? If you ask me both Wilder and Joshua both dont have a good chin but Joshuas seems quite a bit better.

 

I guess I agree to some extent. Of course, Fat Andy is a far cry from Wlad. AJ fought Fat Andy with the respect of an ATG. Fury beat the number one boxer on the planet at the time. He was an underdog and did what he had to do to get the win.

For the record, I never criticize a fighter for being smart. Neither fight (AJ’s or Fury’s) was entertaining but at least Fury employed the strategy to beat a big strong, skilled HW, one who is hard to look good against. AJ did it to beat Fat Andy, a guy who looks like he should be competing in a pie eating contest, not in a boxing ring - unless they have a pie eating contest in a boxing ring. That’s a pretty big difference.

 

Agreed but Ruiz posseses different attributes to Wlad. Ruiz is far better on the inside than Wlad so there's nothing wrong with trying to outbox Ruiz.

 

Its more about character and what they both say they are and also promoted to be.

Fury has always been promoted and spoken about as a boxer, with a high ring IQ, the big man with great footwork and natural talent.

Fury tried to box against Wilder in the first fight, Fury was dropped twice in the first fight and the second time for 8 seconds most people thought it was over..

Fury got off the floor and then took it to Wilder, won the rest of the 12th round and then come the second fight from the first bell Fury came right across the ring, in to the danger zone and fought Wilder, bullied Wilder and stopped Wilder.

Speak volumes about Fury's character, courage and attitude.


AJ on the other hand, says he is a beast, an unstoppable force, promoted like he is the second coming of a prime Tyson and for a while his performances against some decent opponents sort of backed that up, he was stopping them all.

But there are certain performances that were questionable or certain moments that raised questions about AJ and then he ran in to Ruiz.

It was put on him, he was dropped 4 times and in my opinion QUIT.

The rematch, after all the bluster and bullish talk about taking the titles back in brutal fashion, no more Mr Nice Guy.. well he skirted the outer ring and jabbed his way to a wide decision.

Sure, it was good performance and while you can point and say it was a very good boxing display and showed a different side to him it also says he isn't the man he claimed to be, that beast, that animal.

The fact is Fury has showed his courage, determination and character and he passed all tests with flying colours.. AJ passed many but not all of them because the moment AJ was really in trouble, really up against it.. he QUIT.

 

This is Ruiz's skills evidence: to land legal punch opponent doesn't see setuped and even when coming in.
This is boxing's soul. Soul of the Craft.

Not properly landed because he maintained distance and looks that gameplan was to outpoint Ruiz.

41 y.o Klitshko will not do anything with 38 y.o his version for example. Nothing. Not comparable.

Ruiz does beat very hard, his power is underrated and he does have a lot of flaws but his hands too are not slower than Usyk's hands at all.
Wilder get a lot head blows from 270 lbs motivated and contentrated boxer, I do not think that might be big shame or glass chin proof just 1 stoppage loss there.
Yeah, Wilder does have a lot of advantages and pros ad also a lot of cons: worse from them: almost one handed and very predictable boxer.
Maybe he will improve?

 

As much as i hate t agree with Drago,Wilders chin is fine

Molina did wobble him but Molina actually looked like he cared that night, it was a decent shot too

He hasn't since and never will moving forward

Fury just plain and simple beat him up from all angles ,pain everywhere and to his credit he still didn't actually get counted out


Wilder's chin is as good as AJ's more than likely

 

In terms of the rematches, I don’t see much of an issue either, AJ did what he had to in order to win, but it’s case of the “win today, look good later” mantra in effect. In Fury’s case, he crushed his opponent emphatically.

I think some of the criticism sticks in that each guy’s reaction to adversity and adjustments to the critical test were polar opposites.

I think the criticism of AJ in the rematch is over the top. AJ isn’t the 1st guy to fight more cautiously, or smarter, in a rematch.

However, there is some fire to that smoke in that AJ, a heavy favorite, got hurt, dropped and stopped while seeming to give in against an out of shape, late replacement fringe contender, then fought a cautious fight in the 2nd go around against the same guy.

While Fury, an underdog against another top contender, got hurt, dropped, got up and brought the fight and got a bad luck draw. Then, in the rematch, dominated from the get and KO’d that guy.

Context is key.

 

Fury had landed on him at least 3 full power punches on head not on chin before Wilder even intitally had started to struggle.
So chin maybe even is very good.
A.J get counter and also this temple shot plus punches after this. Still lesser number of punches to head/ chin area than Wilder had get from Fury before fight was stopped.

 

If he had Ruiz III fight and took Usyk fight instead of 39 y.o Pulev he had damn better resume now.

 

Maybe but Wilder ducked Wlad for a reason. Im not sure if Wlad knocking Wilder out cold in sparring is true but Klitschko himself is one of the hardest punchers of all time, so withstanding bombs from him is a decent feat. Whether Fury hits harder than Ruiz is unknown but Ruiz is 4 times faster and can throw tight compact hooks. Maybe if Wilder got in the ring with Aj we could see how good his chin was

 

True, it would be better. That said, I think his resume is fine, and the deepest among the HW’s.

 

Its more than likely his team ducked Vlad to not lose the gravy train so early in to his reign

 

He had ducked Wlad? Really?

There might be enough to see how might perform in clinch vs Wlad someone, he was horrible there to fight with.
He had exausted Povetkin exactly not with punches, Povetkin was smaller and with this for Wlad was enough. Wlad is only one alone boxer who had defeated in pros prime Povetkin version not these out of prime later Povetkin's versions.
Fury exactly appeared guy really comfortable with clinches threat and enough large to clinch with Wlad. yeah, 38 y.o ? version out of prime but still this was Wlad.

 

What ?