The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Yes, and I've stated his resume above and it's to say it has holes :smoke

 

Barrera, Marquez, Morales? Hatton that was coming off of a TKO over Paulie?

 

MAB, JMM, Morales (fight 1)....good fights.

Didn't say his entire career. At certain points of his career.

Hatton was KO'd by Floyd. And looked terrible in the Lazcano fight.
And thinking Paulie would show you anything. Hatton's punch-resistance isn't going to be tested by Paulie.
Even Roach said Hatton wasn't the same anymore.


Floyd and Pac are HOF, ATG fighters. That's the given. But BOTH, at certain points of their careers, have taken the easier road.

 

Jumping from weight classes is a challenge in itself. How many of today's promising/elite fighters tried to fight a gatekeeper one weight above and got destroyed? Pac did it 7 times. That said, IIRC, it was only David Diaz that Pac played it safe (Juan Diaz was supposed to be the best that time but we knew better now). Oscar, Hatton, Cotto are all tough if not the toughest challenge for Pac when he fought them. The fact that you purposely didn't provide answers for the questions in your post is proof of that.

 

Not really. But seeing as this is a Pac hate thread, there is no point in arguing with you. So you see it however you wanna see it and history will do the rest :good

 

It really doesn't matter b/c EVERY fighter has had "easy" fights at one point of time or anther.....and FAR MORE than Manny. And those "easy" fights that you pointed out are actually NOT that "easy" for most.

Manny is just held to a differnt standard which is understandable. But folks have to make sure they put things in the right perspective.

 

Pacquiao's faced worse opposition outside of his comfort zone than Mayweather. Period.

Nearly all of his opponents above 130 have been old, and beaten by other fighters already

 

Hatton may have been KO'd by Floyd but let's be real....Ricky by far did A LOT better than anyone expected. 10 rounds.....Had Floyd claiming he was the toughest fight he's ever had.... And Rick really didn't take punishment aside from the 1,2 combo from Floyd and the turnbuckel. Are we really gonna say he was shot?

The Lazcano fight if you recall was BEFORE Floyd at 147! And that was the indication that a WW RIcky wasn't the same as a Jr WW Ricky where he was dominating. Before moving up to chase Floyd.

Roach never said Ricky wasn't the same before Manny beat him...afterwards he did.

All fighters have tune ups or "easier fights" at one time or anther...but regarding PAC's resume...even his "easy" fights are challenging to the vast majority. DIfferent standards for special fighters.

 

Not true at all....the only fighter who had a loss before facing Manny was EM....OH...and Josh. Other than that....Every fighter was coming of wins or had wnning streaks. And most of the fighters Manny faces were in their mid to late 20's...so "OLD"....not really accurate.

 

He got whupped by Marquez, twice.

He got whupped by Morales, and only beat him once Zaheer Rahman had already done the job.

Hatton? The guy was so bad when Pacquiao faced him that half of the UK wanted him to retire. He nearly got knocked out by Juan LAzcano int he bout before malignaggi.

The only reason he was put in with Paulie, is the fact that he was the only opponent in boxing that wasn't going to knock him out

 

And yet a lot of people were saying Hoya, Hatton and Cotto were too strong for Manny before the fight...then after the fight they're all washed up :roll:

 

Pac ducked Shane Mosley. Paul Williams called him out at 147. Both fights were tougher at WW than fighting Cotto at a catch-weight at WW. Remember, this was a Post-Plastered Cotto who didn't look so hot againsnt Clottey either and Roach had some words for where Cotto was at in his career at that time.

JrMW: Williams and Martinez would have fought him. Instead, Post-KO'd Margartio and without his magic gloves.

Oscar: dead. Roach just took the bet that the odds were in his favor given all that he was seeing.

:huh
You want me to show you a list of who he could have fought?

 

what you have to realize is

when pac was to fight DLH. . . concensus was Pac is too small and will get destroyed

when pac fought hatton . . . pac is too small, he will get bullied

when pac fought cotto . . . pac is too small, he cant take cottos power

now pac fights margarito. . . still the same story as far as the people who thinks margo has a chance

now we found out that manny is alot more powerful then we all thought he was, and that he can hold it down at this weight and wants to discredit his wins against these guys? I say bull****

I dont see Manny taking any easy fights, and if it ended up being an easy fight, NONE of us learned that until AFTER THE FACT

 

Check what weight that fight was fought at :-(

 

Gatekeeper at 7 weights!?

Pacquiao lost to the only decent guys he fought at flyweight, and super bantam. And they weren't the toughest guys in the division.

He hand picked Diaz to get a 135 belt.

He took Cotto over Mosely, just because Roach wouldn't let him fight Shane.

He's taking Margarito over guys like Paul Williams, begging him for a 154 fight.


Sorry. Pacs taken the path of least resistance, plenty in his career