The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

The only thing stopping Hatton being KO'd in 9 rounds was some ropes holding him up, and a biased hometown ref.

 

not only that, Hatton was fighting Floyd, not a true big WW.

Floyd was showing up at that time around 147-149 on fight-night. Which happens to be the norm for fighters that fight in the JrWW division for their weight on fight-night. Like Hatton making weight at 140, then rehydrating up to 149+ by fight-time. So if anything, this fight was better placed at 147 where both fighters could basically take a **** to make weight instead of completely drying out and then hope they rehydrate properly.

Hatton's mistake when he moved up to WW against Collazo, by his team's own admission, was bulking up to be a WW. He didn't make that mistake against Floyd. Their plan was to basically show up and Hatton's normal fight weight that he is used to instead of bulking up like a WW. And even his fight at WW, he won a title at 147 without needing a "catch-weight" or anything. The extra weight just hurt his stamina which showed later in the fight.

 

The problem with *****s is you guys refuse to look at reality. FLOYD DUCKED PACQUIAO!!! It's that simple really. And I'm done w/ this who had a better resume crap. You guys spin it how you want to and do with it whatever you please. Truth is, Pac is rated significantly higher than Floyd in ATG rankings. And believe it or not, their resume has something to do with that.

 

Come on:

Barrera 2, Morales 2 and 3 were bouts against old, shot fighters, who everyone was whupping.

He was whupped in Morales 1. And whupped twice by Marquez.

Hatton and Oscar were worse fights than when mayweather fought them both. By a huge distance.

Cotto , Margarito and Clottey?

The argument is simple. If you're saying Mayweather hasn't faced the best at 130 and above, theres a big argument to say Pacquiao hasn't either.

Most of his opponents have been hand picked. Especially his last 3 fights

 

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Put in the most biased ref and Pac would have knocked him the **** out still. Not enough ropes in the world to hold up Hatton after what Pac did to him

 

True...Ali also had parkinson desease and was older then DLH, took more punishment and was coming off a long layoff.

A lot of fighters get bumps and brusies in sparring...nothing new and Valero had a little power if I'm not mistaken...not to mention the kid was a super talent like Manny...the guy he was going to face.

Holy is in his own world by the way.

DLH was suppose to beat the **** out of Manny and that was the vast majority who felt that. He was in for a rude awakening along with everyone esle who thought it was a mismatch.

PAC was moving up and still undecided on if he'd fight at WW or Jr WW...he was testing the waters. Shane was considered the best WW at the time...I don't think Manny was prepared to fight the best at the time b/c he was a smaller guy moving up to face BIG, GREAT WW's.

Floyd don't fight for Legacy...he's made that Clear....So Baldo...who didn't offer as much money was the chosen opponent? Ok....But his decision had nothing to do with Baldo being a lineal champ.

There were other champs in the WW divsion...Holy fought Buster b/c of Tyson being in Jail. Big differnece.

I can't compare Floyd then to now b/c he's completely acting in a different manner than anyone is use to. He's never had to give props to anyone of his opponents...even if it's indirect....saying Manny ain't **** and over hyped then making accuastions taht he's on some specail "A side of Meff" doesn' tmake a whole lot of sense.

Demanding Blood test which he's never had to do is out of the norm as well.....Getting him to take a fight worth this kind of money is also not normal for Floyd...So the big queston is "WHY"? Why the "new" floyd all the sudden when it comes to him facing a guy he said was going to be a cake walk?

 

The problem with Paclanders is that they're so biased, and hateful of the unbeaten Mayweather, that they frankly believe anything.

There's a jeff Mayweather article on this very site, stating quite clearly that those guys talked, but they never got into any agreement, as they couldn't make a deal on drug testing.

That's it.

The fight didn't happen as they can't agree on drug testing.

Arum can't handle people thinking that so he floods the net with claims that he has "agreements" and "deals"

How can you duck someone when the teams can't even agree terms!?

 

are you serious??????!!

Barrera
Morales
Hatton
DLH
Cotto

I think you'll find it pisses all over Floyd's resume.

 

No drug testing was mentioned by FLOYD HIMSELF...he said he didn't want to think about boxing right now. How do you get drug testing from that? :huh

 

I'll make a simple point to you.

De la Hoya at 154, Hatton at 147, Marquez at 147, Mosely at 147

are better fights than

Diaz at 135, Hatton at 140, Oscar at 147, Cotto at 147, Clottey at 147


At the very most, they are pretty equal.

So your "floyd doesn't fight for legacy" is little more than a very biased Paclander, who just likes to talk down the guy.

Mayweather's faced tougher opposition above 130 than Pacquiao.

He's faced tougher opposition at 147 than Pacquiao

He's faced a better opponent at 154 than Pacquiao will

 

"Whupped" is a strong word for a close fight. Whup means beating someone DECISIVELY. Granted, the Morales 1 fight was clear, but it was not a shutout or a TKO. This is how it goes with Pac haters: if he loses a close fight, he "got his ass kicked/whooped/beaten the **** out of." But if he's the one who dominates the opponent, all the criticisms just keep on coming. So if you want to call Pacquiao's tough fights against Morales na dMarquez "Domination," then I guess whatever floats your boat makes you happy.

 

AHAHA! You expect me to do your research? I'm not that guy....Get a grip homie.......I'm not your assistant or secratry. You're the one looking like a dumbass posting false information without KNOWING what you are talking about. If you want to improve your knowledge show some initiative. It's not hard to find.

JMM at 140 or anything above is a mismatch and Manny's not goin back down to light weight. If Manny took that fight he'd get NO respect b/c this JMM as seen in the Floyd fight is NOT the JMM at 130 or 126.

Manny can't fight anyone he wants.....Floyd is not willing! PAC is facing TRUE WW's and is exploring JR MW. You can rag on Manny and his resuem but you are pissing in the wind. There is nothing solid you can hang your hat on to support discreidting PAC's accomplishiments....it's by far better than ANY fighter currently fighting today.

JMM was a better technical fighter than PAC but PAC like Floyd has unreal talent and ability that took him further than skills and technical ability alone could have done.

 

We can analyze any resume a certain way, to support our agenda or claims.

Manny has a very good resume and so does Floyd, although I favor Manny's over Floyd's at this point in time. Manny has had more high risk fights over the last decade.

For the hard core Mayweather fans, PBF beating Baldomir at 147lbs ain't better than Pacquiao beating Diaz at 135lbs. Baldomir was one of the most limited champs at welterweight in the last 25 years, so it's ridiculous to cling onto the linear title reason for making it such a good win...

 

sounds like sour grapes to me. Hatton was the lineal JrWW champion and both Cotto and Clottey were top 5 WW's. Pac fought those three guys back to back across two divisions. Even though his first fight when he moved up from JrWW was at a catchweight, 145 is a hell of alot closer to 147 than to 140.