The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

...and pigs might fly. Some one might beat Mayweather. It is not going to be Pacquiao. The only advantage Pacquiao has and it's a slight advantage at that. Is in speed. Worse of all for Pacquiao is that he's going to come at Mayweather and Mosley. This is why he loses to both of them. Neither Mayweather or Mosley are Cotto, Clottey or Maragarito. Both are better boxers. Mosley is a better puncher. Mayweather is an expert counter puncher. Pacquiao will be walking into punches all night. Pacquiao is not a bad defensive boxer but he is by no means a great one either. Just look at his face after his recent fights. Jose Luis Castillio did Pacquiao and everyone else a diservice with his secuess in his first fight with Mayweather. I don't know who poses the greatest threat to Mayweather. However styles make fights. Or styles preduce results. Short of a Chavez/Whitaker like decision. Mayweather will beat Pacquiao.

 

Still talking about Floyd /Manny I see. I've been gone for months and it's like I never left LOL.

 

What's this **** about Pac/Mayorga? I still say it's Bob that's ****ed this fight up more than anyone else.

 

so you are the one ***** who has been away?

Welcome back!!!!

 

You always mentioned past his prime Morales, if it is that is the case then that Pacquiao(that is also his first fight at 130) was not in his prime, has a deep cut and was forced to use gloves that he is not comfortable. :good

 

I posted this in a previous thread in response to a poster who's opinion was that Pacquiao had improved technically by leaps and bounds.......

I believe my post fits perfectly here in this discusssion, and is an indicator that a fighter like Cotto has nowhere near the boxing skill nuances that Marquez and Mayweather have.

......here's my response from a previous thread......In the bottom of this post I've posted to video rounds, one of Marquez vs Pacquiao, and the other of Cotto vs Pacquiao, and explained why Marquez had sucess vs Pac and Cotto did not.

Name calling aside, without disrespecting anyone here.
Honestly, be true to yourself and look at the following rounds, one is a Cotto round and how he went about it early when he was in the fight vs Pacquiao......

.......and the other is an early round in the Marquez-Pacquiao rematch.

.......anyone that knows just little bit about styles will clearly see why Pacquiao cant find the angles he wants vs Marquez, and why they are there vs Cotto......


Cotto in that fight is either on the attack and when he's not, he's stationary right in front of Pacquiao.
Pacquiao can be anywhere he wants with those quick and fast feet of his vs a stationary fighter like Cotto.
Thus its why he seems to have found a new way to fight with angles as you describe.

Against a stationary fighter and one that is slow on his feet like Cotto, Paquiao has the choice, he can either go right or left, depending on the opening.
.....and watch when Pacquiao comes to attack Cotto....Cotto just dips and looks to fight back.


Now see the difference with Marquez.
Marquez is always backstepping and moving to his left away from Pacquiao's laser power left......

Unlike Cotto, Marquez looks to counter when Pacquiao first opens himself up for the counter.

Marquez is eliminating Pacquiao's choice to angle to his left and attack from that side.
Since Marquez is angling to his left, Pacquiao wants to force Marquez to move to the the other side and he can do that by landing the jab or the right hook and force Marquez to go the other way.

........but its not working for Pacquiao. Look at those rounds and look at the difference in defense between Cotto and Marquez.
Cotto is just looking to dip, but his legs dont move him out the way.
Marquez not only uses his legs to manuever away, but look, and this is key, look at Marquez play defense with his gloves and pick Pacquiao's jab at the pass.
Marquez not only picks Paquiao's punches with his gloves, he simutaneously is moving away from the punch as he picks it off.
The reason to move as you pick off the punch is in case Marquez fails to block a shot, he's moving away from it, thus if it lands the impact is'nt as great.
Cotto on the other hand does'nt do anything with his gloves to pick or deflect shots.


Jesus Christ, the class and the know how between Marquez and Cotto is like the difference between night and day.


I repeat, Marquez is nullifying and not allowing Pacquiao the choice to which angle he wants to attack from and he's doing it by parrying Pacquiao's shots and moving away and lateraling to the left and turning Pacquiao everytime Pacquiao comes at him with the punches.

Pacquiao's combinations flowed vs Cotto because he was there almost stationary.
......it was'nt vs Marquez because Marquez was'nt stationary, it was Marquez who dictated the terms....rhythm, tempo, and pace.

Watch these couple of rounds, they are an education!:yep

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlLO29K3fZQ[/ame]


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIG-5xKJ0M4[/ame]

 

mayweather beats pac at 147 ? WTF. Mayweather would have trouble right now with Cotto and Clottey. Come on son.

 

Mayweather won't even get in the ring with Clottey LOL!!!!! Clottey would beat Mosley so easy not even funny...

Margarito would massacre Floyd

 

uh oh, here's another 1

 

get off my nuts *****

 

:huh I'm confused. You must be a troll

 

hahaha that guy made a thread about FLoyd as the goat ?

 

Going through my post history , weird kid and a stalker

 

Uppin

 

We have users with less than 10 posts talking ***** this and ***** that? I've yet to understand the purpose of alts...