The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Check it out pipe...

    http://www.steroid.com/Cheque-Drops.php

    From the article...

    "The half-life of the compound is very short (about 4 hours), so along with its immediate impact on the body, it leaves quickly as well."
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hey Pac fan, full random ODST is what is needed to make the fight. It doesn't matter how much BS you pull out of your hat to say about effectiveness of testing. To make the fight you need FULL RANDOM OSDT.

    So now, why won't Pacfraud test?

    1. Pac is afraid of being caught cheating.
    2. Pac is afraid of fighting Mayweather so won't test.
     
  3. El Indio

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    Look at the lengths these sheeps go to defend their baby boy.

    Doing research and **** in order to defend their reason for living.

    What a sad bunch.
     
  4. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Only if you are simpleton.

    Why is Ward not willing to fight outside of California?
    Based on that we ONLY have 2 conclusions

    1. He is afraid to fly
    2. He loves earthquakes.


    You are an idiot who has the ability to lower the discussion to *******ism vs *****ism. Good job. I know you have some emotional investment in keeping the PBF status for some reason but dude settle down.

    I agree that Pac should agree to the testing. That does not however change scientific fact.

    And Pac not agreeing to 14 or 7 day cut off means he is afraid of PBF? So if PBF says X boxer is "not a draw" that means he is afraid of that boxer since he does not have to face him - according to your logic.

    Sheezaz kris. Do you think this stuff through at all?
     
  5. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Of course that is a possibility. That is how BALCO made a living. They where ahead of the curve.

    Then again, if is it an unknown substance, no testing is as good as 24/7/365 testing isn't it?

    I mean how can you test for something you don't know?
     
  6. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    1. READ THE ARTICLE. I know this is very hard for you to comprehend but seriously make an effort.
    2. Mayweather supposedly only wants money so he is afraid to fight "non draw" fighters. (good logic btw)
     
  7. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Right, and if not Balco, somebody else sure as hell is.

    24/7/365...agree, don't see how that could be beat.

    I don't know the answer to that, but my understanding is OSDT is the best available.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know. We should all be scholars like you who hold a point and do no research to figure out if your point is valid.

    We should all strive to your level of ignorance. :thumbsup:blood
     
  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He likes the home cooking California judges serve him? What the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Or did you just figure another Black man, a discrepancy you perceive, so BHS must condone it? Right simpleton. Ward needs to travel like everyone else.

    Please. This is a simple discussion. What will make the fight and what won't. All the BS you keep bringing up... WON'T make the fight. You and your ******* legions don't have the guts to ask Manny to test. I just enjoy bashing Pac fans over the head with it.

    Scientific fact? That is irrelevant. If Mayweather said, "If we both wear rainbow socks we can fight." Pac can either agree or disagree. It has nothing to do with science. I has only to do with a willingness to meet the terms to make the fight.

    Damn right it is or it proves he is scared to test. Especially when it changes exactly enough to scuttle the fight EVERY time. If PBF says that we then go to the evidence. Does the evidence support this statement? If the evidence supports FMJ's position then the fight makes no sense. It is a simple exercise. If a fighter doesn't have the numbers how can we disagree?

    Do you?
     
  10. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What does an article have to do with a demand to make a fight? You either agree or disagree. You don't say "your demand is invalid because". If you make a demand for X ring size, just because a guy pulls out a ton of "evidence" why ring size doesn't matter it has no bearing on the demand. You agree or you don't.

    Huh? Are the Klits "scared" of James Toney? Is Martinez "scared" of Pirog? Fighters do not risk their status on fighters who don't bring anything to the table. For the good or bad of it, that is the business of Boxing. Now you are going to pretend you don't know that?
     
  11. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1st of all, of course the NSAC doesn't want tests that could cost more money. They are trying to keep costs down, but a combination of a blood and urine test is gonna be more effective if you think about it because it uses two ways instead of one, and is more thorough. Why do they use the combination blood and urine tests in the olympics and cycling then if they could just get away with urine testing and save a lot of money and hassles for the athletes?


    2nd, the Examiner is hardly a credible source to quote. Marley writes articles as if he was employed by Top Rank. Just look at this biased article: http://www.examiner.com/boxing-in-n...bobo-price-of-ignorance-america-is-fifty-cent


    This is what WADA's Director General David Howman said:

    “WADA strongly recommends the adoption of the Code by the organizations governing boxing worldwide. AIBA has adopted and implemented the Code, as more than 675 sports organizations around the world have done. The Code provides rigorous and transparent anti-doping procedures that sports and athletes who have nothing to hide should welcome.

    “Among other provisions, the Code makes out-of-competition testing mandatory for signatories. Given that out-of-competition tests can be conducted anytime, anywhere, and without notice to athletes, they are considered the most effective means of detection and deterrence of doping and are an important step in strengthening athlete and public confidence in doping-free sport.

    “A number of substances and methods banned by WADA’s List of Prohibited Substances and Methods, including hGH, are currently only detectable through blood testing.”


    Also check out this article that just came out:

    Doping expert supports HGH blood test

    Dr. Gary Wadler, who has worked closely with both the World Anti-Doping Agency and White House Office of Natural Drug Control Policy, lauded the league's decision to make HGH testing mandatory as part of its labor proposal to the NFL Players Association. Wadler also said any protests from athletes about the blood work required to conduct the test "border on the nonsensical."

    Wadler said he doesn't he believe an effective HGH urine test will ever be developed. The NFL conducts roughly 26,000 urine tests a year for performance-enhancing and recreational drugs, although the current program is suspended because of the league's lockout of players in a labor dispute.

    "Blood testing is an essential part of any meaningful, elite drug-testing protocol," Wadler said. "I testified to that effect in 2005 before Congress. I believed it then; I believe it now. Anything short of that leaves a gaping hole in drug testing."

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/hgh-testing-by-nfl-makes-sense-to-doping-expert-032611
     
  12. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Good post Cali. :yep
     
  13. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And with that... Caliboxing killed the thread. :deal

    Nice work! :thumbsup
     
  14. labintador

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    Lol. Killed the thread? Hardly. It still didn't contradict the statement that 7 days cutoff is more than enough.
     
  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    People are shitting on the "Pro" American angle that PBF mentioned, do you think dudes in the Phillipenes would side with PBF over Manny, no matter the circumstances? I mean even if Manny did the exact same things as PBF has, if they fight in Manilla, the Pinoy's still ride with Manny.
     
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