The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    shut the **** up you uncle tom ***** :rofl
     
  2. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ah....who cares at this point. USADA or WADA or Both....doesn't matter. Point is Floyd has needs in order to face PAC. PAC's accepted, Floyd's acknowledged and 2012 is around the corner. We have the makings of a SUPER FIGHT between Floyd and PAC.

    There should be no more excuses for not making this fight since both sides have acknowledged that they've heard and accepted the testing requirements from Floyd. All Floyd has to do is agree to let WADA handle PAC and Floyd can choose USADA or WADA.
     
  3. Goodhill

    Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose Full Member

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    Well then, to follow this logic. USADA should handle testing for Floyd and Phillipian organisation Mannys. Right?
     
  4. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're from England, you stupid mother ****er.
     
  5. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah....You aren't reading between the lines here. Since PAC had to agree to ALL of Floyd's demands in the testing and PAC had to give in on the cut off, it gives Floyd a little "win" even before the fight happens. All PAC is doing is regaining some control by choosing the organization who will be testing him, meaning Floyd has no control over that aspect, therefore allowing PAC to have control. It's a lot of posturing and mental games which is promising while also frustrating. I do think the fight will happen if Floyd accepts PAC's stipulation on utilizing WADA to test him.
     
  6. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good......That would make sense if you break it down to it's foundation. It's all mental warfare at the moment. PAC wants some control just like Floyd. With the demands, accusations and control on who handles the tests, Floyd seems to have all the cards, but PAC is playing his hand aggressively knowing that Floyd is a fighter who thrives off of having the mental edge before the sound of the first bell.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    USADA makes a lot of money off this testing program. Thanks to Floyd they are starting to get into boxing. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

    Arum is right to be weary.
     
  8. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough. No reason Floyd won't agree.
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    this is from over one year ago.

    Travis Tygart, front man of USADA, is a man with a mission. And that's to further the selfish interests of his company by positioning itself in professional sports particularly boxing where big moneyed contracts are the targets (not dirty athletes), professional sports, an area where it has no jurisdiction over. To do this he is clearly siding and showing his favoritism for Floyd Mayweather, and for anyone who's been following this story for a while can clearly read between the lines whenever Floyd makes a contradictory statement and Tygart comes to his rescue. First of all, nobody believes that its in Mayweather's heart to clean up the sport. Anyone who believes that B.S. coming from Floyd is a hardcore hugger. Floyd only believes in 3 things:

    1. Himself
    2. His money
    3. And his perfect record

    3 things and those are it. If others out there already figured this out at this point give yourselves a pat on the back. Its time that people realize that this whole drug testing crusade by Floyd started out as nothing more than a negotiating tactic for the Pacquiao fight back in December that went horribly wrong and out of control. And Tygart seized this opportunity and wants everyone to believe that he and Floyd are blowing the same horn. Hell even Victor Conte of BALCO fame thinks Tygart is an opportunistic slime ball. "It takes one to know one" applies so well with these two huh.

    Victor Conte: "Tygart puts out all sorts of information which is false and inaccurate. Make no mistake, Tygart has his own agenda."

    The truth is out that the blood testing for the Mayweather-Mosley bout stopped 18 days before the fight. Whatever happened to Mayweather and Tygarts boasts of random testing all the way up to the fight?? Did someone pay up for a compromise because they realized that this whole testing thing was too intrusive and turned out to be a distraction while training too close for a fight? Hmm, just a thought guys.

    So when Pacquiao finally comes out and says he's willing to to concede to Floyd's 14 day cut-off date, here's what Tygart had to say:

    “That totally misses the point,” Tygart said of the reaction some may have upon hearing of Pacquiao’s concession and the timing of Mayweather’s last blood test. “If you know you aren’t going to be tested within the last 14 days, you can cheat and get away with it. It is our right to test at any time, 30 days before the fight, 20 days before, the week of, the morning of – that provides the deterrent. If you block out a period of time and say we can’t test during that period, then an athlete could cheat and get away with it.” (Hmmm, so Tygart was so confident that Mosley, an admitted steroids cheater, and the morally superior Mayweather injected no banned substances into their bodies after they turned up "clean" 19 and 18 days before they fought.)

    But if we backpedal just a bit, this is what Tygart said when Floyd offered 14 days to Pacquiao back in December and why it wasn't a big deal:

    "Were you just using the Nevada, or the state of California, system? If that's the case, I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period."

    Ooookaay. Well he's been pretty consistent for standing up for his poster boy. Reading between the lines, Tygart regards Mayweather as a virtual Boy Scout while continuing to suggest that Pacman is trying to dodge random blood testing.

    More proof comes up in the latest Boxing truth radio show wherein Tygart again comes to Floyd's rescue and defends his use of Xylocaine! I mean WTF?! If this isn't enough to show he's sucking up to Floyd's balls then I don't know what is. I admit I missed the show and I'll have to download it later, but reading that news item on Ric's examiner page made me laugh at this USADA guy. Sure he's right it isn't on the WADA list of banned substances, but here's the thing according to NSAC it was ruled illegal to use a week before an NSAC sponsored fight! Here's a story about it taken before the Mayweather-Hatton fight:

    http://www.timesonli...icle3019074.ece

    Apparently it was such an issue for Hatton and his people that they had to complain to NSAC. But for Tygart and his posse, it ain't no problem for them, no siree'.

    NSAC's Kieth Kizer: “If lidocaine is injected, the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt."

    Uh huh, just perfect for a guy who has brittle hands, someone like Floyd Mayweather. Am I forgetting something here but isn't boxing a contact sport wherein its all about giving pain as much as taking it?? Now if your complaining about soft hands, but injecting pain killers in it, wouldn't that in a way ENHANCE your "threshold" for that specific pain, making you punch harder than you normally can making you PERFORM better?? Something to think about.

    Tygart's favoritism is just written all over the place. Very unlikely from a guy and an agency supposedly neutral. I say drop USADA and let the commissions choose a seperate completely neutral entity in administering the random testing.
     
  10. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Read what I wrote carefully. Floyd demanding OSDT persistently which has been added in the contract is an indication that he thinks he controls the negotiation when he fights. It's a different tune with Pacquiao since he is p4p #1. Pacquiao isn't the desperate to fight Mayweather. Pacquiao already reached his dream in boxing even before moving up in weight specifically 147. Mayweather is just going to be a famous name that's gonna be added in Pac's resume and that's it. It won't really make a whole lot of a difference if he wins or loses against Floyd. Floyd just wishes he can say the same but no. Floyd has a big gapping whole in his resume.
     
  11. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Floyd fans are always the first group to argue about making the fight happen. It just so happens that this also applies to the one that has been trying to avoid the fight. :lol:
     
  12. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Floyd is setting this **** up big but the Bob father is better at this game.
     
  13. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    He's getting ****ed at the same time he has to worry about fighting Ortiz. LOL Arum is ****ing with Floyd's head big time here. :lol:
     
  14. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So is this yet another hurdle that had to be leapt for this fight to happen? Has the HBO/Showtime issue been resolved yet? What about the split after Mayweather outdraws Pacquiao yet again? Good grief...
     
  15. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    You're already giving an indication that you really don't want to see this fight happen.
     
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