The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    No poin tin talking to *******s about this. Hell they don't even understand that WADA uses the USADA to do their testing protocol in this country. I am pretty sure that a rep from WADA will be making a comment on this soon.
     
  2. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doesn't really matter what Bob says...although him stating exactly what PAC has already stated regarding the tests solidifies what we already know further....That PAC has agreed to ALL of Floyd demands including the cut off. They did agree to unlimited random testing in the past but the cut off was the one stipulation PAC had on his side befroe he agreed to the fight.

    There have been contradictions coming from both sides...which is why we should really focus solely on Floyd and PAC's comments. That way we don't get 2nd and 3rd hand information from team members rather than the main source. People should know better than to accept Rogers, Bob's, Schafers or Koncz word on this situation.
     
  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Why would you believe one to be any better than the other when they all operate under the same standards? Would it not be logical to utilize the agency with "juristiction" over the country in which the fight will take place?
     
  4. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess this where we differ.

    When I KNOW I am being fed 'spin' and 'bullsh!t', I don't see the need to cheer that on. Apparently, you do.

    At some point, simply by participating, you become part of the problem.
     
  5. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    If that's the case how do you justify giving Pac any credit, regardless who he's beat he hasn't beat the previous #1 PFP fighter who has never legitiamtely lost that crown?
     
  6. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Has Pac EVER stated he has a problem with the trustworthiness of USADA testing?

    If not, again using your logic, why all the controversy?
     
  7. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Correction..."*****'s" don't give a ****, they are simply pointing out how ****ing stupid this is. I don't give a **** who does the testing, I just find it comical that some of you act as if the USADA is somehow biased. That is simply stupid as ****, and shows and overall lack of understanding of what the **** is going on.
     
  8. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's more about PAC wanting to gain some leverage of his own. Taking away that "control" floyd has based on hiring USADA to handle drug testing for his fights empowers Manny. It's a mental thing...>Floyd's great at using Mental warfare to take his opponents off their game...even the whole accusations and demands were head games or so it looks like it since Floyd seems to now want to make this fight happen. Both men are big shots and they are both moving their weight around to position themselves ahead of the other even before the sound of the first bell.
     
  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    There are labs all over the world who do this, but they do it under the supervision and guidelines of WADA, which are upheld in the USA by the USADA. What the **** is wrong with you man, do you really not "get it", furthermore the Examiner is a glorified blog...please stop posting that bull**** as if it's a legitimate source.
     
  10. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    First off **** you, simple and plain.

    Secondly, you know whats really annoying...a motha****er who comes in making stupid ass uneducated comments without reading a Got Damn thing, or having any real knowledge of what the **** he's talking about. Word of advice, READ THE ****ING INFORMATION, then try and comment. WADA doesn't do tests ******, the USADA is an indirect extension of WADA and handles their testing for athletes that train, compete, or live in the United States.

    Lastly, as I've said numerous times, I DON'T GIVE A **** who administers the tests, the point is simple...to question the USADA and insist WADA is credible is ****ing ******ed and shows an obvious lack of understanding of what's really going on.
     
  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Oh and another thing you spineless, loud mouth, know nothing, late to the party ass motha****er, could you please link the post where I said Paul Williams beat Lara, I'll wait.
     
  12. Sweet Jones

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    So, in other words, much like paulfv, it is irrevelant to you if there is a real objection to USADA doing the testing or its 'credibility', as long as Pac gains some imaginary 'leverage'.

    Man, you dudes are way too far gone. Y'all are actually cheering on roadblocks strictly for the purpose of winning some useless 'PR' battle.

    This is sad, man.

    :verysad
     
  13. Concrete

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    I don't know about the lidocaine part. But if the testing was so inconvenient as you say that Mayweather had to tell them to cut the testing 18 days before the fight which is all speculation and conspiracy theory's. Then wouldn't it be inconvient for him again vs Pac making it an even playing field? This goes against the belief that Mayweather wouldn't be inconvenienced with blood testing but Pac would. If Mayweather felt he had to pull the plug 18 days before the Mosley fight as he was being bothered by it then why would he allow it to go to the day of the fight vs Pac? And if it did make them weak (more speculation and consiracy theorys) it would make both of them weak so they would be even. Mayweather would probably be more at a disadvantage as he would have to cut more weight then Pac. Pac with his 7000 calorie diet can replenish what he lost easier.

    I don't believe that stuff though as they stated there was no reason to test beyond 18 days as neither of the fighters showed anything funny with there blood cells. And neither of the fighters knew that they would cut testing with in 18 days. That is the power of random, just the fear that they might possibly come is enough to keep people in check. They never even have to conduct a test, just the fear that they might come at any time would be enough.
     
  14. DrTrouble

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    I don't understand what is so hard to grasp about Arum's disapproval of USADA. He feels that they are bias for Floyd because Floyd is the one pushing for them to become part of boxing. Meaning USADA can make a lot of money if they become the standard in testing for boxing. I think I read somewhere where it costs like $50k-$100k for USADA to do testing. That's a lot of money.

    Maybe you need to look at it this way. USADA represents a doctor you can choose to do your diagnosis. If that doctor stands to gain a lot of money from you, maybe he's willing to do certain things for you even though he's suppose to adhere to a certain set of rules. We've all heard of doctors prescribing medications to patients where they probably shouldn't. Anyway, Arum seems to think that Tygart, the head of USADA, is bias for Mayweather so why shouldn't he find a different doctor to use?
     
  15. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right.....the whole OSDT demand to begin with has been a fiasco that wasn't worth the ink used to print the stories on it. It was a whole "built in drama" that Floyd created for his own reasons.

    PAC playin the same game is like a jab at Floyd, but not one that changes the landscape too much. After all....PAC is taking the tests...it's just having the CHOICE to utilize his own option.

    This isn't a road block....as the main thing is Floyd still gets what he wants...he just loses a little mental leverage he had by controling the whole testing demand.

    It's been a sad situation since Floyd decided to make the accusations about PAC and create the obstacle with the additional testing. Very sad bro.:-(
     
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