The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

To try and force your ideals on people who at the end of the day, dont give a ****.

 

"if you want to be the best then show us the tests"

 

What is Mayweather counter suing for?

 

He's suing, Hermdick, Cockman, Ballszooka, Lanceuptheass, Montoya, and the ******* nation for copying Floydettes attack on Pacquiao being suspect of PEDS use.

 

So if half of ESB was hanging on his every word, how come nobody saw these "3 failed tests" accusations? The first time this surfaced on ESB is with the C/D letter.

He definitely was looking into any disclosure clauses, which is of independent interest. I have no doubt he's aiming for Floyd, he's a glory hound after all. But this accusation needs to be addressed, in light of Quillin Wright:

That GBP requested a non disclosure clause with both VADA and USADA, and was denied by VADA only.

It wouldn't be the first time USADA has shown more "flexibility" than VADA.

 

I guess only the Tweetybirds can accuse someone without proof!

 

Remember the time when people were claiming that the NSAC testing was fine, and that there was no proof that the NSAC was out of date. Now all of a sudden not only is the NSAC considered out of date but now USADA is considered out of date(though this may not be fact).

At least there is progress.

Mayweather needs to hand over his contracts and then test using Vada instead of USADA in order to prove he isn't a drug cheat. But Manny doesn't have to do anything more then NSAC testing.

 

Vada could maybe be the standard for boxers as its cheaper. The problem with USADA was that only the big money fights would be able to do them. Boxing as a whole would never be able to fund upgrading the testing to USADA standards. But Vada may be the cheaper alternative hopefully to the point that they can become the standard but don't know if they are cheap enough for the commision to make them the standard.

It was Mayweather's influence which sparked this though. If it was up to Roach and Pac NSAC would be fine and there would be no need for Vada.

 

Both get sanctioned by the same body (WADA) and run their tests in the same labs. I definitely agree that USADA is more established and more of an authority, but I'm not sure it's more than three times better, which is the price difference.

Plus, it's not as if VADA hasn't caught quite a few fighters in both boxing and MMA. For what it's worth, VADA has caught more dopers in those sports combined in the last three months than USADA has in its history.

Amateur sports are able to use USADA because the US government helps subsidize them through the USOC. That said, they're still a for-profit organization, and the rates they charge to private individuals are not only obscene, but are also about 5 - 10 times what they charge amateur organizations.

 

Plus frankly, several 20+ page threads in on the topic, it's pretty clear that there are only two camps here: hardcore Floyd fans, and everyone else. I have yet to see anyone who isn't a Mayweather fan say that holding out for USADA over VADA is acceptable.

 

And as this is still in its infancy we don't know how receiving a private service works. What's in the contracts, how are results shared etc etc

These are things that should be transparent if people are actually serious about cleaning up the sport. If not its just another way for boxing seedier parties to carry on their corruption

 

USADA over VADA is still acceptable as long as USADA does the CIR testing which they claim they do. Then Mayweather would also have to show proof debunking that he is in bed with USADA by showing the contracts. If Mayweather proves there is no contracts and that there is CIR testing then USADA would still hold its spot as the top dog.

What people also need to understand is that VADA will be used more by boxers because its cheaper. USADA so far I have only heard been used by Mayweather and his opponents because of price and because Vada is brand new.

VADA tested 2 upcoming fights 4 fighters in a matter of weeks becuase of affordability. While USADA tested Mayweather-Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto 4 fighters in a matter of yrs because of affordability. At this rate VADA will test like 20 fighters to USADA's 2 so of course they will find more cheats.

 

There's also this Quillin - Wright situation over USADA right now. That's a weird one right there.

 

Wouldn't be the first time an American doping body covered up something. Carl Lewis tested positive twice but had it swept under the rug, by the American body in charge of doping.

 

That situation is laughable.

1. Declare you'll be doing random testing.
2. Take the samples.
3. Two weeks before the fight, destroy those samples.
4. Declare you're no longer doing random testing.

Yo, what the **** g'wannin, Golden Boy?