The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

I guarantee you Pac will never fight Ortiz!

And for the record I like Pac but dont be fooled into thinking he is an all time great at WW. Now below WW, thats another story.

 

There are too many variables to say someone beat a better version of a fighter because they beat them 2 years earlier.

First of all being 2 years older doesn't mean you've declined, in fact for me Mayweather fought a better version of Cotto as he hadn't declined since the Pacquiao fight but he came in at a more comfortable weight and had a great game plan thanks to having a coach in his corner.

The same goes for Pacquiao fighting a better version of Marquez than Mayweather did at welterweight for similar reasons, I don't think Marquez had changed since Mayweather fought him but he had added the weight on better.

You can tell when you're dealing with a fanboy when they try to argue both to suit their agenda.

 

Yep the lineal champ number 1 ranked WW, how could i forget. Truth is people for years have tried to **** on mayweather resume, which is laughable.

People said his resume at WW was weak, now why don't we look at it closer.

Beat Baldomir number 1 WW at time.
Beat Judah Former number 1 WW (correct me if i'm wrong)
Beat Hatton Undefeated former WBO champion. (gave up belt to move back down to 140)
Beat Marquez number 2 p4p ranked fighter (135 champ) This win has improved a hell of a lot since a much older marquez beat pac at WW last year.
Beat Mosley Number 1 WW at the time. (mosley destroyed margo)
Beat Ortiz number 3 WW at the time (Ortiz beat up Berto)


So we have Baldomir, Judah, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley and Ortiz all at 147.

Then we have Del La Hoya and Cotto at 154.

Most people would die to have a resume that filled and I've only discussed 147-154. :rofl

Floyd has grown through 5 weightclass undefeated, bloody amazing.

 

You can say all of that, but really it's just speculation.

FACT is that Pac tried to drain Cotto to 143, Cotto said no, I'm the champ. ARUM talked to Cotto's nutritionist and they (not Cotto) came to a weight of 145, and then Cotto got backed into a wall in signing the deal

Pretty scummy if you asked me. If having Cotto lose extra weight didn't mean anything, then Team PAC would have just let it go and let Cotto weigh whatever he wanted when he turned it down the first time.

 

Floyd haters are funny. They say people only buy Floyd fight to see him lose. Well, Floyd must be fighting great fighters if people actually think he has chance to lose? I mean, if I was a hater and only watched Floyd to see him lose, I would not buy a ppv in which I thought Floyd was fighting someone who had no chance. Truth is these haters **** on Floyd's resume but secretly think he is fighting a threat and buy the ppv in hopes he loses.

 

:yep

 

Floyd always has been and always will be on a different planet than paq.

floyd is known as the most skilled boxer ever and one of the very best of all time.

while paq is a top 5/10 of this time, seriously

 

Pac beat same competition more impressively. DLH, Cotto, Hatton etc..

I think Floyd is going to be remembered as the guy who was scared of Pac, PBF avoided too many fighters.

 

Do we really need to go through this again.

Show one example of Mayweather getting KTFO?

Never mind by a rickshaw driver, and a Chinese waiter.

Even making allowances for the fact that *******s are naturally stupid even you must be able to understand that there actually IS a difference between 154, and 145, so your Cotto , and ODLH analogies are ******ed even for a fully paid up *******.

 

:deal

 

:rofl:roflatsch

 

Floyd has fought the higher ranked fighters, especially recently.

 

Turbotime laughs everytime yall post in his trolling thread.

 

Right, but saying Cotto was drained -- despite him showing no signs of it in the fight -- isn't speculation?

Ok, so let me get this right - Cotto's nutritionist (who works for Cotto) gave consent to the 145 catchweight without bothering to make sure Cotto was cool with it. Come off it.

And of course Pac's lot initially suggested 143. Are you forgetting the time when this was made? You know, when Pac was still an unknown commodity at welterweight? When a catchweight was a given for that fight to happen? That's what people do in negotiations. They wanna' do and secure the most advantageous thing for themselves. Much like Mayweather, feeling dropping to 144 would harm his conditioning, decided to go against his word and do JMM over on the scales.

Scummy, eh? See above example with Mayweather. That's scummy. Being a career featherweight asking a welterweight to drop two pounds whilst he himself is coming up five (from a division he's only ever had one fight at), is not scummy. It's reasonable - as evident by noone (not the fans, not Cotto, not noone!) having an issue with it before, during and immediately after the fight.

 

Baldomir was ranked #1 at WW by everyone