The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Yes, Arum went to Cotto's nutritionist after Cotto turned down 143. Look it up.

    I have said on multiple occasions that wht Mayweather did to Marquez was BS and it tarnished the victory. Hell I don't even really rate the win for Mayweather because of it.

    The Cotto win, same logic applies. Cotto even said- once Arum finally had his puppet hands out of Cotto's ass- that cutting that weight for Pacquiao DID harm his body and he was not willing to do it again, which is why he turned the rematch down. That says a lot when someone like Cotto turns down a fight because he didn't want to go through the draining.
     
  2. Uncle Rico

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    And again I ask you - Cotto had no say in it? Cotto's nutritionist, the who works for Cotto, ignored Cotto's pleas for it to be at 147 and set a deal for him to drop two extra pounds?

    Right.

    Cotto turned down the fight and bargained harder because he had more options on the table. One of them being a more lucrative fight with Mayweather which made the Pacquiao option not all that attractive. So, quite rightly, if he was to turn the Mayweather fight away for Pacquiao, they needed to have offered him something something worthwhile. Dropping down to 147 when he could remain at 154, was not worthwhile. That "sacrificing my body again" was him being insistent on not wanting to go below 154. In the three years since that Pac defeat, not once has he came out and said he felt weak because of the 145 catchweight.

    And enough with nonsense about Cotto being too afraid to speak out when with Arum. After the Margarito scandal, his criticisms towards Margarito and Arum were not held back. Nor were his demands in the Margarito rematch - a 153 catchweight (after cheekily requesting 150 :lol:) and threatening to pull out if the fight was moved from NYC.
     
  3. Bladegunner

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    :rofl:lol:
     
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Cotto was a company man LONG before Pacquiao was. Of course he isn't going to say no to Uncle Bob after he went behind his back to his nutritionist.

    I think I'll go with what Cotto says in regards to how he drained himself for Pac, over what you THINK Cotto was thinking when a rematch was put on the table.

    Thanks for the input though :good
     
  5. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Cotto said he was fine at the time

    But anyway- the Marquez match did more damage to Pac's "invincibility" (yet really helped serve to lift Marquez) than the Bradley match
     
  6. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    Yep basically this :rofl
     
  7. leftleftright

    leftleftright Active Member Full Member

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    The discussion starts with --

    A. Floyd is scared. He will dodge FILL IN THE BLANK. The fight will never get made.
    B. Ok so the fight got made but Floyd's gonna get his ass kicked FILL IN THE BLANK is too [Pick One -- fast, quick, strong, big]
    C. Well floyd waited until FILL IN THE BLANK was past his prime, and even though Pac fought him even later (or weight drained, or fought to a draw and/or controversial split/mixed decision), Pac's resume is stronger.

    What do you have to smoke to believe this???
     
  8. leftleftright

    leftleftright Active Member Full Member

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    The only thing Pac's resume has on Floyd's is volume. They've essentially fought similar talent but Floyd is undefeated and Pac has 4 losses and 2 draws. Is there some ATG on Pac's resume that I'm missing? How is this difficult?
     
  9. This. What the **** kind of logic is that? :lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. Thatman

    Thatman No respond troll pactards banned

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    Yes easily.

    Go check the rankings.

    To those who say Floyd went life and death with Cotto i'll spit on you if I saw you.

    Floyd took 10 out of 12 rounds.

    Meantime Pacquiao lost to Marquez.

    Floyd fights the higher ranked fighters. Floyd fought 3 top 10 in a row.

    Hatton
    Marquez
    Mosley

    Not to mention Floyd has not fought an unranked or non top 3 in a divsion or top 10 pound 4 pound since fighting Mitchell in 2005.

    Pacquiao fights #6 Mosley and #6 Clottey plus an unranked Margarito. Struggles with both top 10 he just went up against in Marquez and Bradley. Lost to Marquez but beat Bradley.

    Floyd has lost 3 rounds since returning from retirement.

    120-107 over #2 pound 4 pound Marquez

    119-109 over #3 pound 4 pound Mosley #2 WW at the time-lost round 2


    40-35 at time of stoppage over Ortiz. Minus 1 on the headbutt plus minus 1 on the KD.

    118-110 over #1 JMW Coto. lost rounds 6 and 8.

    Pacquiao lost 9 rounds to Marquez, 4 rounds to Bradley.
     
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Lance_uppercut please stay the **** out of my threads.
     
  12. I thought I was popkins? You missing Floyd's nuts in your mouth bro? Don't worry he'll be out in two months. Just pray he don't fall in love with Bubba :good
     
  13. Thatman

    Thatman No respond troll pactards banned

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    Your not a very good poster. Just post on **** you know nothing about. Your one of those *******s who got all butthurt after Timmy ****ed that ni33a up huh?:rofl
     
  14. Butthurt? Nah, Pac won that fight easily. Much easier than Floyd did against Cotto :lol:

    If a good poster is anything like the *****s you so adore, I'll take that as a compliment.
     
  15. Thatman

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    Nah but he didn't...check the scorecards...or he lost the Marquez and won the Bradley.

    Manny Pacquiao is 1-1 either way you look at it.

    He lost to Bradley and beat Marquez.

    or

    He lost to marquez and beat Bradley.

    1-1 0KO

    Floyd is 2-0 1KO in his last 2.

    :hi::hi:
     
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