The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

I love how Pac is held to such higher standards then Mayweather on this board.

When it comes to Mayweather we ignore so many things. ODH had gotten a gift against Sturm and was KOd by Hopkins. I guess the win against Mayorga made him a prime fighter again.

Hatton had looked like **** in his one win at WW against Collazo and many people felt he lost the fight. Of course Mayweather decided to fight Hatton at WW even though he could have easily made 140lb. But, let's not mention that.

Marquez had never fought at the WW limit. Mayweather comes out of retirement to face Marquez and pays the penalty instead of even trying to make the weight limit. Mayweather was clearly the bigger man on fight night.

Shane Mosley was seen to be far on the decline. Losses to Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright twice. A lost to Miguel Cotto. A poor performance against the limited Mayorga. He then goes on to beat Margarito who had just got caught possibly trying to cheat and was having weight issues. We ignore how he hadn't been successful for years and build up the Margarito win to justify him being a legitimate opponent for Floyd.

Victor Ortiz clearly had mental issues and was stopped once by what many people consider a poor fighter in Maidana. Apparently Berto is the WW that you must beat nowadays to get a shot at Floyd. Let's forget the fact that Berto has done nothing at all.

Miguel Cotto was and is unproven at 154lb. Even in his fight with Pac where he had to fight 2 pounds under WW, he never looked drained. He had already had a loss to Margarito and showed heart against Pac, but came up short. He moved up to 154 and started making excuses that he was drained for the Pac fight. Ironically, he wouldn't rematch Margarito at the 154lb limit and made that fight a catch weight. Now, if he was a natural 154lbs all of the sudden, why did he want a cw against Margarito? He got his revenge against a Margarito that Pac had ruined and then does nothing at 154 that is impressive. Mayweather tried his hardest to claim he was facing Cotto at his best weight and that he was really an undefeated fighter. Cotto gave Mayweather a tough fight and then was thoroughly beaten by Trout in his next fight.

Robert Guerrero is a career LW who jumped up 2 weight classes and had 2 hard fights and is now somehow the number 1 contender to Floyd. His best win was against Berto and what exactly has Berto ever done to be the man to beat to be rated #1 contender?

Most of these fighters were either not fighting Mayweather at their ideal weight, were unproven at WW, or had been beaten mulitple times in the past and were not close to their prime. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a good resume, but when Pac has beaten almost the same type of competition or the exact same people there are always excuses of why they weren't the same fighters. People ignore the facts with Mayweather.

Now Pac is fighting Rios who is coming off a loss. Of course he also has knocked the man out that he just lost a decision too. Pac is also smaller then Mayweather so people saying Pac is picking on smaller fighters don't realize that some of Mayweather's supposed best performances and biggest wins have come against smaller fighters.

It seems like boxing fans nowadays get clouded by 1 win or loss and don't look where the fighter really is in his career. Shane Mosley was all of a sudden considered P4P after the Margarito win even though he had not done anything at all in years. He had been defeated several times and most people thought he was done. One win against a Margarito that probably had his mind a little occupied that night and all of a sudden he is a prime Mosley. Floyd beats him just like Forrest, Winky, and Cotto did and of course he is shot to **** when Pac fights him. We ignore that he had looked like **** for years before the Mayweather fight however.

Rios isn't going to be considered an excellent boxer but he is tough as nails and loves to fight. It's a good match up. It's about as good a match up as Floyd vs Guerrero, even though the Floyd fans can't and won't admit it.

 

this needed it's own thread huh atsch atsch get off his dick weirdo

 

And about JMM..

This guy hasn't beaten anyone worth of mention before losing to Norwood. Got his first world title by beating Gainer who barely beat Leon. That fight was so close it could have went either way, I scored it a draw by the way. Then fought Pacquioa and luckily escaped with a draw. Seriously, how can anyone score that fight 115-110 in favor of Marquez? Ducked Pacquioa after. Lost to John. Won over Barrera, when I thought he lost. Lost to Pacquioa again. Both guys went different paths. Looked boring in the first 10 rounds against a way past prime Casamayor. Won over feather-fisted Diaz who is coming off a loss against Campbell and a split-decision win against Katsidis who just lost to Casamayor by a stoppage. And Diaz gave him fits. Lost to Mayweather by a shut-out. Then fought Diaz again who is coming of a loss against Malignaggi. Fought Katsidis who already lost to his victims. Fought an unknown Likar Ramos. And lost to Pacquioa again. The only version of Pacquioa he has beaten is the faded one who lost to Bradley. And it was a fluke. He got lucky Pacquioa got tripped and free fall into his punch. It could have been anybody. And he's fighting Bradley next when we all know that Bradley himself is coming off two controversial wins.

:deal

 

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/03/26/13/marquez-denies-changing-after-pacquiao-ko

 

And yet, Pacquiao fought the first 4 fighters (ODLH, Marquez at WW, Hatton, and Shane) you listed AFTER Mayweather did.

So what are u really saying?

 

:think

 

That Mayweather beat ODH after Trinidad, Mosley, and Hopkins had already defeated him.

That Mayweather had fought Shane after Forrest, Wright, and Cotto had beaten him.

Pacquiao had fought Marquez TWICE before Mayweather did.

Hatton is the only fighter to be technically undefeated when Mayweather fought him, even though the fight with Collazo was questionable.

So the people that say Manny fights Mayweather leftovers, aside from Hatton, all these fighters had lost before they got in the ring with Mayweather. Does Mayweather fight leftovers?

 

Pac was tiny against all of those guys except Marqueerz, Floyd was bigger than them all except ODLH. A case can be made that ODLH beat May, also Pac jumped 2 weight classes to fight him and people were enraged on here and the media saying ODLH is cherry picking.

Hatton was much bigger and back at his optimum weight against a tiny Pac, Pac obliterated him without a refs help.l

Pac beat a roided JMM, The Mosely fight wasn't great but at least he was again much smaller, unlike May who was again bigger.

Beating much bigger men is better than beating smaller men, beating them much better than May did on top of that is exceptional.

 

Pacquiao became a welterweight in 2009 (I know he fought DLH at 147 but was considered too small still and went to 140 instead), Mayweather in 2005.

It kind of stands to reason Mayweather is going to fight some of these guys before Pacquiao can get to them? WRT Hatton, he fought him at Hatton's weight, not made him come up to 147

 

And Mayweather fought the guy who lost to Salido. :deal

 

pac, williams all dodged mosley in 2009 and it was floyd who had to fight him instead for the WW championship

 

Let's get to the main question if you have to put money on a Pac vs Money fight who would you bet on?

 

That's got nothing to do with their resumes and how Floyd fans laugh at Pac's WW run yet somehow make it out like Mayweather had beaten and ruined all these fighters. It's like people ignore everything with Mayweather but then with Pacquiao find every flaw in an opponent. Seriously, how could someone call ODH and Mosley Mayweather leftovers?

 

pacs run is a joke at ww plus he got schooled and ktfo there deal with it pacturd

 

Thanks. Care to elaborate and explain how Floyd's run is much better.