The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are YOU ignoring the following facts? You ****ing moron.....

    The testing request was made very early in negotiations. Fact.
    Pacquiao's team agreed publicly directly after that "testing was not an issue." Fact.
    About a week later, Pacquiao's team adds the $10 million per pound penalty clause. (this was amid rumors all other details for the fight were finalized) Fact.
    Mayweather immediately agreed to the $10 million and didn't even raise a stink about it. FACT.
    THE SAME DAY THAT MAYWEATHER AGREED AND SIGNED, Pacquiao's team balked on the testing issue. FACT.
    After a bunch of public insults by Bob Arum, Mayweather agrees through mediation to a 14 day cutoff TO COMPROMISE. Fact.
    Pacquiao signs a fight with a guy coming off a loss, Clottey, 3 days later. FACT.

    In the end Pacquiao had:

    50/50
    Ring Size Choice
    Glove Choice
    14-day cutoff on blood testing
    $10 million per pound penalty for Floyd

    In the end Mayweather had:

    50/50
    14-day cutoff on blood testing.

    You guys are ****ing the most pathetic bunch of teenage girls ever. I'm going to rename the *******s to the Bieber Girls.
     
  2. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    So what if Floyd demanded testing. Tyson asked Holyfield for pre fight urine testing which had never been done. Bowe asked Golota too.

    Manny asked for 10 million per pound if Floyd came over which had never been done. Hell Manny missed weight before too.

    As for Floyd offering manny 40 million I don't give a **** bc that **** should have and would have never taking place had Arum did his ****ing job and talked to Shaefer who had been calling his phone to negotiate.

    "Why is Shaefer calling me, they don't promote Floyd." Bob Arum

    "Who represents Floyd bc we don't know who to talk to."Bob Arum
     
  3. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    no answer to why everytime manny accepted a demand a new one came in.

    Ok i agree to 14, now its 7.

    Ok i agree to 7. I've lost my urge i'm on holiday

    Ok I agree to all testing, lets just fight. No PPV for you - 40 mill guarantee.


    You can mention all these terms that manny turns down. But everytime he did accept them, floyd just came back in with another one.

    Floyd did not want this fight, I don't know why you all thought he did.
     
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    The fact that people will actually come in here to defend Pacquiao rather than shake their heads in disgust at Manny now accusing others of juicing and wanting USADA testing is ****ing laughable as much as it is sickening. What happened to let the commissions do their jobs?? :-( Should Rios and Marquez be suing Pacquiao now?

    Says everything you need to know about his fanbase.
     
  5. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    :deal
     
  6. DeadLikeMe

    DeadLikeMe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought USADA was a corrupt organization?

    This is too funny. The PPV likely did over 1 million and now Manny is using USADA (which for the last two years was the evil corrupt puppet organization run by Floyd to secretly cheat Pacman )...oh man this is a hilarious day on here.

    Watching the pacstan house of cards come tumbling down over and over never gets old.

    :rofl
     
  7. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    A disgraceful, disgraceful bunch.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    mrjotatp4p,

    What my theory is, is that everything was agreed, and then Manny and his team thought "**** that! I'm not being dictated to by him, especially when I'm being labelled as a cheat." I think it was Manny sticking two fingers up, and saying "This fight isn't going to be made just on your terms." That's my honest opinion. I think there was lots of emotion involved. We know that Manny sued in the end.

    I know this. But they could have given him urine tests, and he was willing to be tested after the fight. I don't think Manny needed a cut off to hide anything. Again, if you think he did, tell me the following:

    1. When would he have done it?

    2. What benefits would he have gained?

    I'm not referring to Floyd changing his stance from 50-50 to 55-45. Floyd always deserved the bigger share in my opinion.

    I'm talking about Floyd wanting the entire PPV revenue from a $200-300m fight. That was ridiculous!

    That's right in theory.

    But couldn't that have happened after Manny gave into Floyd's testing demands in the end?

    It's a huge assumption to say that the fight would have taken place if Manny had agreed to everything at the start.

    With everything that has happened over the past 4 years, it was by no means a certainty.
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Because Pacquiao coming off a knockout loss is nothing like Pacquiao being #1 P4P and on the driver's seat. Clearly he's doing this in preparation for a fight with Mayweather. My previous post was too complicated for clowns so this should be simple enough.
     
  10. JohnAnthony

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    most of the guys caught juicing, were the guys demanding the OSDT.

    Also the guys caught using get there drugs fom the same doctor as guess who. Floyd ****ing Mayweather.

    LMAO, you guys actually thing FLoyd is clean. He takes 18 months off and comes back with a completely differant body shape, even more ripped than before..

    OSDT means all year round. There's only 2 fighters to my knowledge that o this and thats Khan and Donaire.

    Floyd is not one of them.
     
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Try and turn it around on Floyd all you want. Manny is the ultimate flip flopper and you defending him in here along with other *******s like Dodong and Gander Tasco just makes you guys look foolish :lol:

    So are you going to answer the thread question or are you just going to keep trying to defend Manny's honour?
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I respect your opinion mate.

    All I'm saying is, he could never have admitted to Kimmell that the reason was to not give into Floyd, as that would have been used against him in all future negotiations.

    He could never have admitted to such a thing.
     
  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Tough times in Pacland.
     
  14. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    We will never know if Mayweather would have changed his mind because Pacquiao blatantly ducked stronger testing to fight Joshua Clottey.

    The problem for some people is they think just because something was negotiated before that it will still stand years later, that isn't the case.

    At the time of the 50/50 being agreed Pacquiao had just done great numbers against Cotto which was better than any Mayweather PPV where he was the A side, however that was counterbalanced by the size of the DLH PPV so 50/50 made sense.

    Fast forward a few years and Mayweather was matching that with the likes or Ortiz while Pacquiao's were not getting released, it was clear Mayweather had moved ahead as the far bigger earner and wanted it reflected in his purse.

    The50/50 ship sailed long ago and Pacquiao realises he missed the boat, I also expect him to come out in the not too distant future and say he's prepared to accept $40 million but that ship has sailed too.
     
  15. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Okay so with your theory its okay for Manny to say **** this I am not getting dictated to but it was okay for him to ask for 10 million per pound? Hell that's dictating to Floyd and Floyd agreed.

    Now as for the 40 million dollar offer. Manny deserved part of the PPV and Floyd back then even said they never discussed that. here is the problem with Floyd calling Manny. "IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED." Arum refused to negotiate on Manny's behalf and even refused to answer phone calls from Shaefer. Even while talking to the media he was joking asking why was Shaefer calling him.
     
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